jamie wrote:A&E docs call bikers donors......
Can somone pls remind me why I do not need a motorbike ?
You go into the gravel in a car you get pulled out with a red face . You do it on a bike it really hurts and bikes are expensive to fix.
Bike forums are littered with people with permanent injuries and lost friends .
On a twisty road with no traffic I honestly think an Elise is faster than say an R6 .
I used to love bikes , they were great fun buy EVERYONE ( 6 I can think of) I went around with crashed at some point and spent time in hospital. The ones that still ride do not have sports bikes anymore.
Having said that when I win the lottery I will get a Ducati 916 and have it in my living room , great bits of machinery . Great fun , glad I did it but its only now I realise what I put my parents through when a policeman came to the door.
Each to their own.
Bike forums are littered with people with permanent injuries and lost friends .
On a twisty road with no traffic I honestly think an Elise is faster than say an R6 .
I used to love bikes , they were great fun buy EVERYONE ( 6 I can think of) I went around with crashed at some point and spent time in hospital. The ones that still ride do not have sports bikes anymore.
Having said that when I win the lottery I will get a Ducati 916 and have it in my living room , great bits of machinery . Great fun , glad I did it but its only now I realise what I put my parents through when a policeman came to the door.
Each to their own.
No lotus
Exige Sport 350 (Sold)
Elise Cup 250 (Air con and radio tubby spec) (Sold)
Evora S (sold)
Exige Sport 350 (Sold)
Elise Cup 250 (Air con and radio tubby spec) (Sold)
Evora S (sold)
Come on they really aren't as risky as everyone is saying.
I've had one accident purely inexperience, damaged bike, fixed thru' insurance and I walked away.
You quickly realise how exposed you are and ride accordingly or wait for the big bang!!!
I've said it before but the supermoto route or big trailie is ideal, plenty of fun but low ultimate speeds and you do tend to ride at a speed more in keeping with other road users.
Still you make better progress when there is traffic and in that way I reckon most pleasure road trips can be quicker on the bike. Ultimate speeds and cornering are much more down to your skill, familiarity with the road and the size of your kahunas.
As for involvement even the elise doesn't occupy your every sense in the same way, can you lean over in your lotus, what edge grip are you using, nothing compares for me.
I've had one accident purely inexperience, damaged bike, fixed thru' insurance and I walked away.
You quickly realise how exposed you are and ride accordingly or wait for the big bang!!!
I've said it before but the supermoto route or big trailie is ideal, plenty of fun but low ultimate speeds and you do tend to ride at a speed more in keeping with other road users.
Still you make better progress when there is traffic and in that way I reckon most pleasure road trips can be quicker on the bike. Ultimate speeds and cornering are much more down to your skill, familiarity with the road and the size of your kahunas.
As for involvement even the elise doesn't occupy your every sense in the same way, can you lean over in your lotus, what edge grip are you using, nothing compares for me.
if evolution don't take care of it, redesign it
I totally see where you're coming from. I guess a lot of people's reactions are negative because I'd reckon everyone on here knows someone who's really hurt themselves on a bike, me included. In fact, I've also been involved in an accident with a bike. The bike was totally destroyed, but amazingly he walked away (shuffled really). The rider's skill/sensibility is one thing, but bikes I'm sure you'll agree leave the rider considerably more exposed than a driver in a car. Even the best/most sensible riders in the world will be at risk of some muppet/old person/twist of fate...max1966 wrote:Come on they really aren't as risky as everyone is saying.
I've had one accident purely inexperience, damaged bike, fixed thru' insurance and I walked away.
You quickly realise how exposed you are and ride accordingly or wait for the big bang!!!
I've said it before but the supermoto route or big trailie is ideal, plenty of fun but low ultimate speeds and you do tend to ride at a speed more in keeping with other road users.
Still you make better progress when there is traffic and in that way I reckon most pleasure road trips can be quicker on the bike. Ultimate speeds and cornering are much more down to your skill, familiarity with the road and the size of your kahunas.
As for involvement even the elise doesn't occupy your every sense in the same way, can you lean over in your lotus, what edge grip are you using, nothing compares for me.
I'm sure the feeling of being out on a bike is something special, and lets face it, we're all here because we enjoy these sorts of things. I know I do (and for what it's worth, I always wanted a bike. I just don't think I'll ever take the plunge, unless i have my own private track).
just everybody stay safe and enjoy
1995 Volvo 940SE Estate
I certainly reckon an Elise is faster than just about any motorbike on twisties such as the Dukes Pass. I followed a couple of bikes in my Elise over it once with the video running and the lean angles of the bikes were pretty amazing but in the end they let me by because the Elise could corner better.tenkfeet wrote:
On a twisty road with no traffic I honestly think an Elise is faster than say an R6 .
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I also found that following Elises and Exiges on TT2007 that their brakes made a bike difference to their progress. I just could not match the late braking/grip and in fact actually warped the rear disc on my BMW R1200GS (non ABS) during weekend
(replaced under warranty 
)Vauxhall Astra 1.4 Sports Hatch - not as slow as my old Corsa 
BMW R1200GS - Fast as F@ck spec - 0-60 in 3.2 secs
BMW R1200GS - Fast as F@ck spec - 0-60 in 3.2 secs
I did an advance-driving thing a couple of years ago and the instructor was an ex-police instructor’s instructor for both bikes and cars. He said the biggest problem was the born-again bikers that had one in their youth and then sold it and got sensible. Then as part of their mid-life crises they buy the biggest badest super-bike and go off and kill themselves. 
I have driven a 500 on the road and its great fun, very close to skiing with the lean angles and lack of protection but I will never own one or drive another on the road as i would end up driving it like I ski I think the biggest problem is other road users, you could be the best rider out there and still be taken out by an old dear driving on the wrong side of the road.....
they buy the biggest badest super-bike and go off and kill themselves. I have driven a 500 on the road and its great fun, very close to skiing with the lean angles and lack of protection but I will never own one or drive another on the road as i would end up driving it like I ski
I think the biggest problem is other road users, you could be the best rider out there and still be taken out by an old dear driving on the wrong side of the road.....