Has anybody changed their vote about independence??

[campbell]

Campbell,

I understand your point, however, I think you have miss-read my comment.

It's not that the English are anti-Scottish per say, it's more about our loathing of the SNP as personified by wee crankie whining on about independance 24/7 when they know full well it's simply not an option unless Scotland wants to become a third world country.

I'm pretty sure the English are not alone in loathing her, and to be blunt, I'm pretty sure most of the population north of the border are too.

This whole situation remind me of a typical family dealing with an adolescent teenager who keeps screaming "it's so unfair" to everything.

Fair enough, Simon. I'm with you on quite a bit of the above

Not least the Kevin and Perry parallels...

[istoo]

ARGH ...and timed out again, sorry Rosssco, dont have the time to type it all out again.
Not reflective of your reply, much the opposite civil and well presented. Thank you. Comign from a similar place but have a differing conclusion with much of it, but err towards the other side. But not by much. We also worked on a handful of energy infrastructure projects across Eu inc UK, same views.

However performance from both Holyrood and Westminster at the moment is far from inspiring, I do wish someone would focus on the path ahead rather than winning electorate. Whatever the outcome of this or brexit, this still needs fixed. This leads to the big issue, polarizing a nation, is there not a middle ground here? indyref1 i would have voted devoMax if the choice was given. Now it seems we are into a world of opposites. There is no middle ground. I feel on the middle ground.

Should spent more time on Elise maintenance!

[Rosssco]

Not a worry Istoo!

Jimmy 'Day of Reckoning' Sillars might have changed his mind:

http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/j ... -1-4398051

[campbell]

Interesting. Is he speaking sense?

[Rosssco]

I think he actually is - last thing the SNP want is for the UK to get a decent post-Brexit deal, hence everything contains the ultimate statement "Hard Tory Brexit".

These are pretty funny though (spotted in Glasgow):

[campbell]

Too true.

I don't mind being governed by the SNP. I also think Ms Sturgeon is pretty bright. And a very good politician. But I want her and then to GOVERN. Not GAMBLE with our collective future.

<sigh>

[c8rkh]

This may surprise people, but I also have no issue being governed by the SNP. The problem is, they ain't doing much governing these days as all they are doing is campaigning for the same old thing. I do believe Sturgeon is bright, as I always believed Salmond was too and at one point I actually thought for some time he was one of the cleverest politicians in the UK. Alas, the wheels came off as his focus narrowed and I believe the same thing has happened to Sturgeon.

If it was me. i'd have bided my time. Watched and observed what Brexit became, and then, if it was crap, I would have sprung into action, called a referendum and we'd have been away. However, I just think all her constant rhetoric has actually turned people off the idea, rather than turned them on to it.

We'll see. However, the house search in England is now underway as I just cannot go through the next years and years with this constant whining in my ears and at the end of the day, as a high rate taxpayer, the SNP will demand and make sure I foot the bill for it all. It's already started.

[thinfourth]

Sad to see you leave

But

If everything goes to plan we will be hot on your heels behind you

[campbell]

We're in North Yorkshire in 2 weeks. Antenna firmly up for property trends.

[ryallm]

I find it really quite bizarre that anyone would consider leaving Scotland because of another referendum vote. I am sanguine about the whole thing. Let's just say Scotland had voted to leave last time around - what difference would it have made to me or my family? A bit of a marginal difference in corporation or personal tax, perhaps, other than that, didly squat. Scotland is a great place to live - fantastic scenery, brilliant for outdoor sports, vibrant music and cultural scene - you name it. None of that will change a whole lot in or out of the UK or in or out of the EU. If you are well off and living in a liberal democracy the truth is that what the politicians do has only very limited real effect on your daily life. Chill and focus on the people around you and the choices you make about your own life - far, far more important than all the political sh*t!

[campbell]

The latest referendum threat is almost irrelevant Mark.

The way the SNP are (not) governing my country is the biggie.

I can't see that changing for 4 years. And then what damage done by then?

You make your own luck. If you can't change a thing others are doing, you change what you can. If that means changing your home location, we all have the right to do so.

To stay put and just moan (or struggle to make a living) is no way to go on. IMHO.

[ryallm]

The latest referendum threat is almost irrelevant Mark.

The way the SNP are (not) governing my country is the biggie.

I can't see that changing for 4 years. And then what damage done by then?

You make your own luck. If you can't change a thing others are doing, you change what you can. If that means changing your home location, we all have the right to do so.

To stay put and just moan (or struggle to make a living) is no way to go on. IMHO.

But specifically what actual difference does all this make to you or your family or your business on a day to day basis? I am not having a go I am genuinely curious.

[campbell]

Paying more tax.

Kids educated less well.

Fewer business opportunities for my company because clients stop discretionary spend on training and development.

Being called a traitor for voting No in the indyref.

My wife abused for being English.

I can go on. And I do respect you're interested / curious. No problem.

I will not be dictated to. And right now? That's how I feel my government and its First Minister are treating me.

I suspect I'm not alone.

Anyway. Break's over. Need to get back to earning some revenue. LOL!

[ryallm]

Paying more tax.

Kids educated less well.

Fewer business opportunities for my company because clients stop discretionary spend on training and development.

Being called a traitor for voting No in the indyref.

My wife abused for being English.

I can go on. And I do respect you're interested / curious. No problem.

I will not be dictated to. And right now? That's how I feel my government and its First Minister are treating me.

I suspect I'm not alone.

Anyway. Break's over. Need to get back to earning some revenue. LOL!

Well, the Pentland hills will still look lovely on my ride home tonight, my boy and (Yorkshire lass) wife will give me a hug when I get through the door, and this afternoon I'll be discussing some business stuff which will make way more difference to me financially than any impending tax changes. Politics? Relatively trivial

[thinfourth]

you are well off and living in a liberal democracy the truth is that what the politicians do has only very limited real effect on your daily life. Chill and focus on the people around you and the choices you make about your own life - far, far more important than all the political sh*t!

The problem is the SNP arent overly keen on democracy and they are about as far from liberal as you can get.

They want to legislate and control everything.

Add in they are promising utopia

When utopia is not delivered by FREEDUMB then things will turn nasty and rich Tory toffs like myself will be in the firing line.

Also

I no longer feel welcome in this country as there is a nasty and growing under current that everything in scotland is the fault of NO voters and Torres.

When you have senior SNP politicians posting that it is decent civilised scots against NO voters it certainly doesn't help.

https://theweeflea.com/2017/03/22/nicol ... -scotland/


As i said before i am not the kind of person scotland wants