Sky BB.
Sky BB.
Since we moved in to Tut End download has been around 0.7mb, just ok for e-mail and pretty slow browsing, but not much good for steaming, even low res from BBC News. This is why I have gone onto Sat at £44/month, good speed at a constant 20mb but only 25gb data/month so have to juggle between the two, Sat if I want to watch anything in HD, Sky for the rest.
However in the past few days Sky has suddenly shot up to 1.7mb, still pathetic but twice what it was and more usable. No idea why so will see if it lasts.
tut
However in the past few days Sky has suddenly shot up to 1.7mb, still pathetic but twice what it was and more usable. No idea why so will see if it lasts.
tut
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I believe it can happen, but all bulbs are at least CFL nowadays as they have replaced incandescent ones.
However all our ceiling lighting is the sunken small circular type, had halogen bulbs in when we moved in but replaced them all with white daylight LED bulbs that are only 3-5kW. Most of the CFL bulbs have also now been replaced with bayonet or screw type LED's now that prices have come down, much brighter, last 20,000 hours and use a quarter of the electricity.
tut
However all our ceiling lighting is the sunken small circular type, had halogen bulbs in when we moved in but replaced them all with white daylight LED bulbs that are only 3-5kW. Most of the CFL bulbs have also now been replaced with bayonet or screw type LED's now that prices have come down, much brighter, last 20,000 hours and use a quarter of the electricity.
tut
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Tut,
Chances are some engineer has opened a cabinet and wiggled some wires
Cheers,
Robin
Chances are some engineer has opened a cabinet and wiggled some wires

Cheers,
Robin
I is in your loomz nibblin ur wirez
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Ford Jnr has a tool for checking that, well on SDSL lines.campbell wrote:Flood damage
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ADSL Max typically has a learning period where the equipment in the exchange adjusts the noise margin on the line to see what speed can be sustained. Lower noise margin means higher speed but potentially more unstable. Higher noise margin means lower speed but more stable.
When the connection was originally setup Sky would have specified a higher noise margin due to the length of your line. The equipment will have periodically dropped the noise margin, increased the speed and monitored what happened. If the results were good (ie: no dropped connections) then eventually after 2-3 months the equipment defaults to the lower noise margin. This can also be done manually by the provider if you can find the right person in tech support (not first line customer service).
The comments about fluorescent light bulbs fall under issues associated with REIN & SHINE. For example a neighbour had a issue with broadband dropping in the evening when his driveway lights switched on. Turns out the cables for phone & lights were buried next to each other. Separated the cables and no more problems. The KITZ website is a great source of info. http://www.kitz.co.uk. Following copied from ZEN Internet:
Repetitive Electrical Impulse Noise (REIN) and Single Isolated Impulse Noise (SHINE) describe interference that can affect the stability and performance of a Broadband service. In both cases, a power source is generating interference in the frequencies used by the ADSL Broadband service.
REIN is where this interference is generated for the duration of use of an electrical device, and will typically result in disconnections or line errors while the device is in use. At its most extreme, REIN may prevent any connection being established at all.
SHINE is where this interference is generated as a burst – when a device is powered on or off, for example. As a result disconnections or line errors may result at the time a device is switched on or off.
Many electrical devices could be responsible for causing REIN and SHINE that affects your Broadband service. Below is a list of some example sources, however many electrical devices have the potential to cause REIN or SHINE:
Faulty power adapters.
Timed devices, such as central heating.
Christmas tree lights (especially on ‘flash’ setting).
EPOS and PDQ devices.
Railway power lines.
Street lights.
Roadworks.
Faulty set-top boxes, televisions and other appliances.
Power cables running close to telephone wiring in the home.
When the connection was originally setup Sky would have specified a higher noise margin due to the length of your line. The equipment will have periodically dropped the noise margin, increased the speed and monitored what happened. If the results were good (ie: no dropped connections) then eventually after 2-3 months the equipment defaults to the lower noise margin. This can also be done manually by the provider if you can find the right person in tech support (not first line customer service).
The comments about fluorescent light bulbs fall under issues associated with REIN & SHINE. For example a neighbour had a issue with broadband dropping in the evening when his driveway lights switched on. Turns out the cables for phone & lights were buried next to each other. Separated the cables and no more problems. The KITZ website is a great source of info. http://www.kitz.co.uk. Following copied from ZEN Internet:
Repetitive Electrical Impulse Noise (REIN) and Single Isolated Impulse Noise (SHINE) describe interference that can affect the stability and performance of a Broadband service. In both cases, a power source is generating interference in the frequencies used by the ADSL Broadband service.
REIN is where this interference is generated for the duration of use of an electrical device, and will typically result in disconnections or line errors while the device is in use. At its most extreme, REIN may prevent any connection being established at all.
SHINE is where this interference is generated as a burst – when a device is powered on or off, for example. As a result disconnections or line errors may result at the time a device is switched on or off.
Many electrical devices could be responsible for causing REIN and SHINE that affects your Broadband service. Below is a list of some example sources, however many electrical devices have the potential to cause REIN or SHINE:
Faulty power adapters.
Timed devices, such as central heating.
Christmas tree lights (especially on ‘flash’ setting).
EPOS and PDQ devices.
Railway power lines.
Street lights.
Roadworks.
Faulty set-top boxes, televisions and other appliances.
Power cables running close to telephone wiring in the home.
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Thanks Mark, lots of useful info there.
Firstly none of the examples in the list apply, I think that the likeliest reason is after eight months they may have changed settings, as you said, balancing speed against noise. I seem to have a stable connection with virtually no drop outs and the speed of .8mb was probably as much as I could expect. I did have problems a few months ago with speed dropping to .4 but after a session with tech they upped the speed as high as they could until stability was affected around 1.3, but that gradually crept down again to the .8 level. This is fine for e-mail, browsing, watching TV etc, but for video clips from BBC, youtube, I switch over to Satellite with 20mb if I want to watch streaming at higher resolution. With a 25GB limit I try to average around .8GB/daily to make it last the month.
tut
Firstly none of the examples in the list apply, I think that the likeliest reason is after eight months they may have changed settings, as you said, balancing speed against noise. I seem to have a stable connection with virtually no drop outs and the speed of .8mb was probably as much as I could expect. I did have problems a few months ago with speed dropping to .4 but after a session with tech they upped the speed as high as they could until stability was affected around 1.3, but that gradually crept down again to the .8 level. This is fine for e-mail, browsing, watching TV etc, but for video clips from BBC, youtube, I switch over to Satellite with 20mb if I want to watch streaming at higher resolution. With a 25GB limit I try to average around .8GB/daily to make it last the month.
tut