Seeking some camber adjustment shims...and geo settings

Post by **campbell** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:35 pm

The shims might be needed when getting my geo done at CLCM this Friday.

Anyone local to C Scotland got access to a couple? Will happily buy, or use on sale or return basis (Willie is fairly confident that he won't need extras, but best to be sure).

I am also looking for "standard" geo settings to give to Willie...though I realise there is probably no such thing as "standard" !!

The car is on uprated spings & dampers, at approx 120mm ride height all round. I am looking for neutral setup, tending maybe slightly towards sharper turnin (I will accept the oversteer risks!).

Will check the Lotus Workshop manual, obviously, but any advice gratefully received.

Campbell

alicrozier · Post by **alicrozier** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:47 pm

Campbell,
Standard settings will be in the handbook (or workshop manual).
I think the geo settings I've used in the past may be a bit aggressive for your tastes/usage. Maybe 340R road settings? Someone will have them.

Cheers,
Ali

BTW, and for general interest, the shims are part#:
front : 2 sizes :
1mm = A111C0062F
3mm = C111C0064F
rear:
1 mm = B111D0052F
and a shim (1 mm) = +0.2Â° (positive camber if added, negative other way)

Post by **campbell** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:58 pm

Ali - much appreciated, thanks.

robin · Post by **robin** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 8:41 pm

Campbell,

I have lost track of the team shim bag, but you won't need any I hope!

You should have:

Front toe 0.2mm toe out overall, (0 min, 0.2 max) and obviously that should be even side to side.

I would aim for 0.3 degrees -ve camber at the front. Obviously should be the same on each side, as far as possible.

For the rear you want 1.2mm toe in (yes, in) each side, (1.2 min, 1.4 max) and even side to side.

Rear camber -1.8 degrees of camber, +/- 0.2 on each side.

I would get that all setup with me in the drivers seat and 20l-ish of fuel.

You may find the steering wheel isn't centered - I almost always find that when toe is adjusted statically it doesn't end up with a straight wheel, even when I hold it straight during the process!

Cheers,
Robin

Post by **simon** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:52 pm

I think the shim bag may be with Mark in Banchory. It was headed that direction when I passed it on to Kerry I think.

Post by **campbell** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:54 am

Robin, Simon,

Thanks to both of you.

I think the car will have to be set up with whatever weights Willie has available as neither me nor Lisa can be present while the work is done

I'll ask if he has a few rims or tyres to stack in the driver's seat (on top of a seatcover, natch!!)

But I'll pass these setting details on to him, and we'll see what the result is like.

Campbell

mckeann · Post by **mckeann** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 12:51 pm

Robin, why aren't you reccomending my settings????????

mac · Post by **mac** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 12:55 pm

Erm - Cos he likes Campbell?

Post by **campbell** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:37 am

mckeann wrote:Robin, why aren't you reccomending my settings????????

I saw what Mac said. I'm bl**dy glad I'm not being recommended your setup matey!!

But hats off to you and others who can control a lairy mega-geometry arrangement...just ain't for me

Campbell
(risk-averse faction)

mac · Post by **mac** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:34 am

It's not a geo setting until the fronts are past 1.7 and the rears 2.6

Mac

mckeann · Post by **mckeann** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:59 pm

i'm not past 1.7 or 2.6 mines is just edgy in a whole new way

robin · Post by **robin** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:03 pm

mckeann wrote:i'm not past 1.7 or 2.6 mines is just edgy in a whole new way

Neil's car has zero toe front and back and this makes it harder to control oversteer - combined with oodles of horsepower makes a spin happy car

Robin

mac · Post by **mac** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:07 pm

Think I've got .25mm camber at the front (each) and something close to standard at the rear.

I was given setting but I would need to have machined the hub carriers to get that extra bit of camber.

Tis a mute point now as if anything I'll be taking some camber off to make the car easier to live with on the roads.

Mac

Post by **campbell** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:43 pm

All done, Willie has turned in an ace job and also enjoyed sharing a few jokes with Eilidh and Lisa when they took the car into him

Thanks to all (!) for advice (?!)

Runs nice and true now, no wander on m-way and wheel is DEAD STRAIGHT.

Was in great shape on the Leaves Run on Sunday. So pleased with it that I am keeping the summer wheels ON and hardtop OFF for the winter, at least at present...so that I can go out and enjoy those crisp sunny days with six layers of clothes and two pairs of gloves on

Just because I can.

That's what it's all about with these things, isn't it!

Campbell

Scottish Elises

Seeking some camber adjustment shims...and geo settings

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