SpeedSpike Camera – Distance Over Time Speed Enforcement

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Re: SpeedSpike Camera – Distance Over Time Speed Enforcement

Post by Peter » Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:05 pm

Supt Denise Mulvaney described it as a "systematic campaign of violence aimed at safety cameras".
Can you be violent towards an inanimate object??
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Re: SpeedSpike Camera – Distance Over Time Speed Enforcement

Post by steve_weegie » Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:33 pm

Peter wrote:
Supt Denise Mulvaney described it as a "systematic campaign of violence aimed at safety cameras".
Can you be violent towards an inanimate object??
Technically not I suspect. I think violence is usually described as actions against a person or group.
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Re: SpeedSpike Camera – Distance Over Time Speed Enforcement

Post by Corranga » Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:35 pm

Sanjoy wrote:I would be amazed if we got them, the populous would revolt and the 6 figure devices would be killed in the sleep if they ever did sleep. Take the A68 cameras as an example :)
No point really, all they'll do is fit security cameras to protect the speed cameras and pass the bill on to the public via a hike in something or other..

History seems to dictate that the majority will simply moan about the cameras and do nothing else. It's a sad thing, but government / policing seems to be more interested in generating revenue via speed cameras than saving lives via targeting something that actually kills a LOT of people.
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Re: SpeedSpike Camera – Distance Over Time Speed Enforcement

Post by sendmyusername » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:01 pm

I came back up the A68 after buying my elise, and if I have to go down south it is my route of choice (the english side is just so much fun) but the amount of times as I was overtaking that my satnav beeped, and I had to slam on the anchors (as I was alongside a car) just to make sure I didn't get points. Makes the road bloody dangerous. Nearly every single overtaking straight, there is a bloody camera (or camera stump :-D ) just means you have to drive harder around the bends. But overtaking with eyes scowering the roadside and sat nav for camera or warnings, and looking ahead to make sure nothing is coming as well ?
(obviously all at 60mph)
I was out for a run with a mate, told him every straight had a camera - if there is enough room to overtake, and it's on a straight, there is a camera - those were my words. So here I am, I can see the camera ahead, enough room to get the hammer down, overtake, slow back down and cruise past at 60mph. Get back in slow down, look in my mirror - there he is barrelling down the road overtaking, with an oncoming car, looking pitifully at me... I had to accelerate towards the camera to give him enough room to get back into his own side before the oncoming car got too close - I tend not to go out driving with him now.
It would be interesting to see if the english side or the heavily camera'd scottish side has more accidents..

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Re: SpeedSpike Camera – Distance Over Time Speed Enforcement

Post by sendmyusername » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:06 pm

Obviously I was just overtaking at 60mph, the car in front obviously had an inacurate speedo and only thought he was doing 60mph, and we all know the elise speedo is very accurate.
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Re: SpeedSpike Camera – Distance Over Time Speed Enforcement

Post by robin » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:15 pm

Sounds like your mate has a dose of Tut's "Tractor Beam (TM)". :-)

The cameras actually make for good overtaking generally, provided you are confident of your speedo ... most people slow down too much for them, so gives you a bigger speed differential, even allowing for the relevant "return to cruise" period in the middle of the overtake :-) The cameras on the other side are even better. Most folk cannot help themselves and slow down to 50tuts even when the camera is on the other side and not painted orange (i.e. cannot be used against you). Provides a perfect moment to blitz a line of pikeys, as Mr Gravel would say :-)

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Re: SpeedSpike Camera – Distance Over Time Speed Enforcement

Post by sendmyusername » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:44 pm

You sure about going into the on coming camera ?
I thought it caught your speed regardless, or does it need your position on the white lines ?
I'm sure if you were 'silly' over, they could use it and recreate it to get you charged ?

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Re: SpeedSpike Camera – Distance Over Time Speed Enforcement

Post by robin » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:32 pm

As far as I know you need the camera to be painted orange on the side you're coming from before "it counts". In Scotland the normal Gatso type cameras are only painted orange on the rear; in England they are painted both sides. Other types of speeding camera will work on both sides, e.g. SPECS type things.

I know a few on here have set them off in the dark by mistake without follow up.

I couldn't say what else the pictures in the camera could be used for - I think that without two pictures showing your car and the white lines there won't be an accurate indication of your speed, but I could easily be wrong - the Gatso might embed a well enough calibrated speed radar in addition to the double-picture mechanism.

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SpeedSpike Camera – Distance Over Time Speed Enforcement

Post by Sanjøy » Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:20 am

Used to commute on the A68 and the cameras on the other side of the road are all faulty as they always flash you.

Never been contacted for them but paid my dues by van and jam sandwich.
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Re: SpeedSpike Camera – Distance Over Time Speed Enforcement

Post by Peter » Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:51 am

Kelvin will vouch for me coming out of Coldstream (en route back from the Ring?) I overtook a car face on to a camera and triggered it, nothing ever came of it wgich was a shame as it would have been a very special picture...
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Re: SpeedSpike Camera – Distance Over Time Speed Enforcement

Post by Dominic » Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:02 am

Sanjoy wrote:I would be amazed if we got them, the populous would revolt and the 6 figure devices would be killed in the sleep if they ever did sleep. Take the A68 cameras as an example :)
Reminds me of when I was in Crete a few years ago. Chatting to a local, I was asking about the speed cameras - he said people use them as target practice - none work and the authorities gave up trying to use them. Just sometimes, maybe there is a case for relaxed gun laws.... (joking!)
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Post by Shug » Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:07 am

Sanjoy wrote:I would be amazed if we got them, the populous would revolt and the 6 figure devices would be killed in the sleep if they ever did sleep. Take the A68 cameras as an example :)
Except they wouldn't... I'm delighted at the A68 cameras - shows someone in the world hasn't been brainwashed yet. Sadly, the general non-enthusiast public have bought the horsesh*t that is the government "All speed = bad, h'mkay?" argument. So we'd get a small rumbling about the police state from the least coherent crusty loon they could find on the news for one night and everyone would just accept it as "for the greater good"

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Re: SpeedSpike Camera – Distance Over Time Speed Enforcement

Post by sendmyusername » Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:32 am

Peter wrote:Kelvin will vouch for me coming out of Coldstream (en route back from the Ring?) I overtook a car face on to a camera and triggered it, nothing ever came of it wgich was a shame as it would have been a very special picture...
Haha, yeah same with the one with me and my mate - his eyeballs taking up most of the space in the windscreen as he started to run out of space heading towards the oncoming car, and mine grimacing as I intentionally speeded up towards a camera, to let him in behind me.
I know they used to put false cameras in (one flash instead of two) to try and encourage slower driving as they couldn't afford enough cameras, and also a lot of them used to run out of film before they were emptied (might account for some of the flashes with no ticket) also I have been reliably informed on more than one occasion that if there are 2 cars in the shot, they don't prosecute, (always worth asking for the pic) and on 3 laners etc it's best to speed on the inside (slow lane) as the cameras focus is set for the outside lane where most people do the silly speeds (even when both inside lanes are free)

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Re: SpeedSpike Camera – Distance Over Time Speed Enforcement

Post by graeme » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:56 pm

I've set the Coldstream forward-facing cameras off on purpose many times when I was up and down to Sheffield. Never heard anything of it, but consider it a public duty to waste film. :)
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Re: SpeedSpike Camera – Distance Over Time Speed Enforcement

Post by j2 lot » Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:51 pm

graeme wrote:I've set the Coldstream forward-facing cameras off on purpose many times when I was up and down to Sheffield. Never heard anything of it, but consider it a public duty to waste film. :)
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