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Re: Thatcher dead

Post by kenny » Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:43 am

You lefties really are a miserable bunch.

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Re: Thatcher dead

Post by BiggestNizzy » Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:52 am

Pete, everyone on here has a toy sports car that's why ;)
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Re: Thatcher dead

Post by campbell » Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:00 am

Mikey, there is only one party line in SE and that is to keep things civil for all participants.
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Re: Thatcher dead

Post by r10crw » Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:18 am

Strange how this divides so many. My best mate cannot stand MT and whilst I'm not exactly the opposite (she was before my time so I stood with an open view) we still we get on without issue.
Kinda pleased we have the same on here,
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Re: Thatcher dead

Post by BigD » Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:41 am

mikeyb13 wrote:
tut wrote:Easy Pete, we see it as it was, maybe were even there, so are not lead by the sheep.

tut
From the stories you tell Tut you were flying round the world for various goverments earning a bomb and living the high life. We were the ones in the sh*t.
Half the rest on here made a mint raping the countries natural resources and the sheep dont want to upset the Aberdeen party line on SE.

Nice moral high ground.
Bit of a generalisation. I think you'll find we have our own minds. I don't work in the oil industry nor am I a sheep although I was brought up in farming. :thumbsup

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Re: Thatcher dead

Post by robin » Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:47 am

Hi Mike.

I understand you have personal reasons to dislike Mrs Thatcher and her legacy. I'm no fan either, as it happens. I see little benefit in this discussion, though, as she's dead and what's done is done.

That said, I would warn against sweeping generalizations.

Which "we" are the ones that were in the sh*t?

Which "half the rest" are the one's raping the country's natural resources?

Finally, who are the "sheep" that don't want to upset the Aberdeen party line?

If you're going to point the finger you should do so properly or not at all.

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Re: Thatcher dead

Post by robin » Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:49 am

kenny wrote:You lefties really are a miserable bunch.
LOL. If we couldn't agonize over the plight of the underclass, we would realize how empty our own lives are :-)
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Re: Thatcher dead

Post by pete » Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:08 pm

renmure wrote:
Pete wrote:
(Jesus how have I managed to find the only pro-Thatcher Scotch group on the internet?)
I had the only flat in my street with Conservative posters in the windows back in 1987 :D
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Re: Thatcher dead

Post by tut » Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:09 pm

I sure was Mike and earned every penny of it, plus risking my life half the time, so I made sure that I enjoyed it and lived by the minute.

You have every right to have your own opinion of her, as do we all, maybe selfishly I think she did a great job for the Country and for me with many of her decisions, for you she did not and you feel very bitter about it. Neither of us know the others experiences that our opinions are based on, so there will only ever be one outcome and that is we beg to differ.

It's part of Democracy, which is why she was PM for three periods, the Country voted her in as opposed to the opposition.

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Re: Thatcher dead

Post by mikeyb13 » Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:23 pm

Im one of the lucky ones Tut. I was clever enough to get a reasonable carer. However in that respect I was lucky. I even agreed with the poll tax. But to make out if you worked ard the rewards were there is just complete rubbish.
Pinochet, and Hussain etc tell me she was not quite as bright as people made her out to be.
And allowing the police to escape punishment for all the people they killed at hilsborough and actually allow them to desicrate the memories of the dead was evil.
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Re: Thatcher dead

Post by renmure » Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:37 pm

pete wrote:
renmure wrote:
Pete wrote:
(Jesus how have I managed to find the only pro-Thatcher Scotch group on the internet?)
I had the only flat in my street with Conservative posters in the windows back in 1987 :D
If that was in Sheffield you may still have my half brick.
Noooo... 3rd floor flat in a nice area of Edinburgh.
Wasn't committed enough to have posters in windows that could be seen too easily ;)

Also remember being in the audience at a filming of Question Time and having my contribution referred by Michael Forsyth MP as "I am fully in support of the comments made by the gentleman in the blue sweater." Cor, how right wing was I :)

Can't remember what they were, probably a bit of Union bashing (think it as around the time Ford abandoned their plans for a £40m electronics plant providing 450 jobs in Dundee because the Unions wouldn't agree to single union agreement with the manufacturer so the factory, jobs and investment went to Spain)
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Re: Thatcher dead

Post by PhilA » Sun Apr 14, 2013 4:10 pm

this is fun! I love a good debate!

we will never agree on it - and thats great!

What I dislike is the folk in my real life who jump on the bandwagon of bashing Maggie, just because its popular.
In the context of when MT was voted in and made PM, she made the right long-term decisions.
Short term, there were people who paid for this.

Just now, interest rates so low, anyone who lives off of interest from their savings (retired people) are not happy.

Its all to do with personal experiences.

I HATED the unions. I still do, and will never vote pro-union.
For me, MT was great because she broke the chain.
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Re: Thatcher dead

Post by hiscot » Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:32 pm

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Re: Thatcher dead

Post by pete » Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:02 pm


Och it's a worthy effort sir but if Phil uses the phrase "...made the right long term decisions..." then it's safe to say this sort of fact based article is going to go way over his head :D

There's actually someone earlier in this thread who is claiming that Thatch didn't ruin the economy and claiming instead it was bankers! Utterly ignoring who it was who removed all the controls that we used to have to keep the city in check.

Good read though, from that notoriously left wing journal - Forbes.
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Re: Thatcher dead

Post by roadboy » Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:00 pm

Debating Thatcher's policies and legacy is as impossible as having a reasoned discussion on religion.

Clearly she made mistakes and could never please all of the people all of the time (which PM ever has?) but the unions have a lot to answer for when it comes to destroying industry in the UK. was she the saviour of the UK? I don't think so. Was she the devil incarnate? I don't think so either.

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