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pinking noise when running.

Post by r055 » Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:18 pm

In the past month or so, my engine has developed a tinking noise that comes and goes...
Its a '99 S1 std VVC - around 60k miles

It can run like this for a few minutes and there doesnt seem to be a lack of power, then it goes away again. quite strange... is this just to be expected from a K of that age/ mileage?

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Re: pinking noise when running.

Post by Rich H » Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:20 pm

Stick some super unleaded in it see if it stops.

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Post by hiscot » Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:21 pm

pinking usually shows under load ie accerating climbing hills wrong gear ect get it checked out asap its realy bad news for a k series failing fuel pump can cause this as mixture goes weak check for air leaks also or ingition and timming issues
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Post by craigs135s » Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:48 pm

Surely it can't be the fuel pump that was changed not that long ago.

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Re: pinking noise when running.

Post by Rich H » Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:58 pm

Blocked filter?
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Re: pinking noise when running.

Post by Victor Meldrew » Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:08 pm

Remember reading somewhere about the charcoal filter making a ticking noise...

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Re: pinking noise when running.

Post by Rich H » Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:46 pm

It does make a ticking noise, but that is different to pinking... You need a jedi's opinion... ;)
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Re: pinking noise when running.

Post by roadboy » Sun Feb 24, 2008 12:25 am

I doubt its pinking.

Most likely the charcoal canister or a sticky tappet.

The other thing it could be is the VVC mechanism.

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Re: pinking noise when running.

Post by r055 » Sun Feb 24, 2008 1:19 am

Yeah dan, Sounds like tappets.
Its seems to be when I push it up at high revs it makes the noise for 10/15 seconds after that as I come off the throttle.
Is that not in line with the vvc mech?

Are any of those noises serious?

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Re: pinking noise when running.

Post by Rich H » Sun Feb 24, 2008 1:23 am

Thicker oil? Due an oil change?
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Post by roadboy » Sun Feb 24, 2008 1:35 am

Sounds like the VVC mech.

Some are noisy and cheap keep going forever. Some are noisy and self-destruct. Its a bit pot luck.

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Re: pinking noise when running.

Post by robin » Sun Feb 24, 2008 10:16 am

roadboy wrote:Sounds like the VVC mech.

Some are noisy and cheap keep going forever. Some are noisy and self-destruct. Its a bit pot luck.

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It might be worth changing the oil (make sure you use the right grade of oil) and adding a hydraulic tappet flush to the oil. While they aren't miracle cures, they can improve the tappet noise for a while - if it makes your engine noise go away for a while, you'll know it's a noisy tappet and can ignore.

Dan - do you know what part of the VVC mech gets noisy? is the rack chattering on the control shaft, or is it actually something in the gears? Presumably failed VVC mech results in valve-to-piston contact?

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Re: pinking noise when running.

Post by r055 » Sun Feb 24, 2008 10:36 am

robin wrote:
It might be worth changing the oil (make sure you use the right grade of oil) and adding a hydraulic tappet flush to the oil. While they aren't miracle cures, they can improve the tappet noise for a while - if it makes your engine noise go away for a while, you'll know it's a noisy tappet and can ignore.
thanks Robin - i'll try this ASAP.
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Re: pinking noise when running.

Post by roadboy » Sun Feb 24, 2008 6:41 pm

robin wrote:[Dan - do you know what part of the VVC mech gets noisy? is the rack chattering on the control shaft, or is it actually something in the gears? Presumably failed VVC mech results in valve-to-piston contact?

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Its usually within the mechanism itself. Quite often due to worn or broken sliders which advance the cam. Its not likely that mechanism failure will cause valve/piston contact. Usually the ECU will recognise incorrect cam advance and go into limp home mode.

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Re: pinking noise when running.

Post by robin » Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:42 pm

roadboy wrote:
Its usually within the mechanism itself. Quite often due to worn or broken sliders which advance the cam. Its not likely that mechanism failure will cause valve/piston contact. Usually the ECU will recognise incorrect cam advance and go into limp home mode.

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