S2 Elise - Whats the difference between 120bhp&135sport

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S2 Elise - Whats the difference between 120bhp&135sport

Post by a4drk » Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:32 pm

As the title says, Whats the difference between the 120bhp Sports Tourer & the 135 sport ?
BHP wise.....

Sorry, i cannae be ersed doing a search back to 2002.......

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Post by r055 » Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:48 pm

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Post by steve_weegie » Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:54 pm

r055 wrote:15bhp... :lol:
At least ;)
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Post by BiggestNizzy » Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:58 pm

isn't it closer to 20 extra bhp ?
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Post by steve_weegie » Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:01 pm

I think it varies depending on how good a mood the janspeed tech was in at the time :lol:
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Post by a4drk » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:22 am

RO55
That link is brilliant.
Got my answer......

which relates to a previous post i done about the high lift cam.
Robin reckoned i would get about 16bhp if I ported the head.....

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Post by robin » Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:15 am

Was I sober?

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Post by Andy G » Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:19 am

robin wrote:Was I sober?

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Post by a4drk » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:31 pm

Robin,
it was this thread from a few weeks ago.
http://www.scottishelises.com/phpbb/vie ... highlight=

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Post by robin » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:46 pm

What are you actually starting with - I cannot see a post on that other thread that has me saying you'll get +16BHP ... if you're starting with a standard 120 head and you port AND put in bigger inlet valves, you'll get +27-ish ... if you're starting with a 135, the job is a bit different and you may not get the same results as Janspeed (or whoever makes them) have already removed some metal that cannot be put back ...

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Post by hiscot » Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:35 pm

kiwirog was telling me last year the 135r head is as near perfect as it is and best mod is larger inlets
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Post by a4drk » Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:20 pm

It was this bit:
(on that thread)

"Campbell's dastek runs: "
http://www.dyno-plot.co.uk/dyno/dynoplo ... /index.htm
from Dyno Plot

before & after

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Post by a4drk » Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:22 pm

Robin,
I've got an 2001 S2 120bhp Sports Tourer
With a Janspeed Backbox & a Pipercross Filter.

thats it......
sounds good, but needs a wee bit more oomph...

Remember, I sold a Westfield Megablade to buy this !
(0 to 100mph in 9.1 secs!)

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Work Horse - Ford Transit - Full of crap spec....... 170bhp one :-)

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Post by robin » Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:43 pm

Ah! I see - Campbell's before figure is probably quite good for a standard car - I think you'll see similar final performance as he has - i.e. it's not +16, it's more about the final head flow you'll end up with - so I would guess that even if your car really only has 120 in current form you'll still end up with a similar final figure to Campbell, IYSWIM.

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Post by a4drk » Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:14 am

OK - Heres goes.
How much would it cost to port the head & fit bigger inlet valves?

(approx)

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Work Horse - Ford Transit - Full of crap spec....... 170bhp one :-)

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