NEW SPEED CAMERA'S - M74 - REPLY FROM STRATHCLYDE POLICE

Post by **Shug** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:21 am

pete wrote:
Shug wrote:
ninja wrote:
We operate a SPECS system on a 32 mile stretch of the A77 in South Ayrshire which has had a massive effect in reducing excessive speeds and has only recorded 49 offenders in its first six months of operation - an excellent result when you consider that there are more than 30,000 vehicles a day using the road.

I trust this addresses your query.

ninja
Yeah - trust me, we now use alternative routes.....

The SPECS system on the A77 was not installed at the cost of millions of pounds to catch speeders. That would be an appalling waste of tax payers money. (SPECS is stunningly expensive to run/install). It was reportedly installed to reduce deaths on one of Scotland's most dangerous roads, that money would have been better spent IMHO by building flyovers at Symington and two other junctions. This would have cost more, saved more lives but generated no revenue.

So with that in mind PLEASE write back to the f*cking Pollis and ask them what have been the reductions in accidents since the system went live? It is entirely possible that they were wrong to install speed cameras, that no-one sped before (which would explain them catching only 49 speeders) and that the reason that people died was because it is essentially a motorway across which people can turn right. And crash. Ayrshire is, according to the signage, Scotland's holiday county. So that is a lot of tourists driving along what looks like a motorway across which tractors regularly cross. Accidents? No sh*t Sherlock.

There is also the issue with the stretch between Ayr & Girvan. Single carriageway trunk route, with lots of neds who can't overtake safely. Accident statistics for that route alone before and after cameras would be interesting.

Symington is a complete joke, though. IMHO it's now compounded as the cameras start at that junction - therefore you get muppets screming up and standing on the anchors, not paying attention to the junction, just to the cameras.

craigs135s · Post by **craigs135s** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:21 am

What is the speed limit on the m77 where the camaras start some people have told me it is 60 mph some say 70mph its a nightmare as i drive it every day going to work.

Cheers
Craig

Post by **Shug** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:23 am

Dual Carrigeway national speed limit is 70. Single is 60.

(it's in the highway code)

craigs135s · Post by **craigs135s** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:28 am

cheers shug. I will have a look at the high way code

Oh well no need to drive at 60mph any more.

Cheers
Craig

Post by **Shug** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:33 am

Well on the rare occasions I have to use the camera'd bits, I peg it at 69.8mph and have never had a nasty letter....

craigs135s · Post by **craigs135s** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:50 am

i was peged it at 59.8

Cheers
Craig

mac · Post by **mac** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 12:50 pm

Depends on what your driving.

Some roads like the bit between Perth & Dundee have a lower limit for vans!!!!

Mac

Andy G · Post by **Andy G** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 2:21 pm

Shug wrote:Well on the rare occasions I have to use the camera'd bits, I peg it at 69.8mph and have never had a nasty letter....

Was that meant to read 169.8?

MacK · Post by **MacK** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 7:42 pm

craigs135s wrote:What is the speed limit on the m77 where the camaras start some people have told me it is 60 mph some say 70mph its a nightmare as i drive it every day going to work.

Cheers
Craig

I'm not sure which part of the A77 have the cameras as I've not been on that road for a few months, but from memory the bit between the end of the M77 at Newton Mearns and the Kilmarnock junction would be mostly 60 as it is not dual cariageway (there is small sections of dual cariageway at some junctions..) But between Kilmarnock and Ayr it is dual carriageway so a 70 limit, if in a car or car derived van etc...

Post by **Shug** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 9:14 pm

MacK wrote:
craigs135s wrote:What is the speed limit on the m77 where the camaras start some people have told me it is 60 mph some say 70mph its a nightmare as i drive it every day going to work.

Cheers
Craig
I'm not sure which part of the A77 have the cameras as I've not been on that road for a few months, but from memory the bit between the end of the M77 at Newton Mearns and the Kilmarnock junction would be mostly 60 as it is not dual cariageway (there is small sections of dual cariageway at some junctions..) But between Kilmarnock and Ayr it is dual carriageway so a 70 limit, if in a car or car derived van etc...

It's been more than a few months since you were on it, hasn't it?

http://www.cbrd.co.uk/motorway/m77/

Post by **pete** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:56 pm

My favourite raod safety improvement was when they put in the roundabouts around Prestwick airport. How many cars ended up parked in the middle of the one after the Monkton roandabout on the A77 down to Ayr. For the first six months or so it was at least a couple a week...

So what did that do to the accident rate? (For thse that never saw it I'm being conservative in the number of crashes there were if I guessed +50).

SO increase accidents, install speed cameras, accidents tail off as people get used to the new road layout.

Nah they wouldn't do that.

ninja · Post by **ninja** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:32 am

pete wrote:My favourite raod safety improvement was when they put in the roundabouts around Prestwick airport. How many cars ended up parked in the middle of the one after the Monkton roandabout on the A77 down to Ayr. For the first six months or so it was at least a couple a week...

So what did that do to the accident rate? (For thse that never saw it I'm being conservative in the number of crashes there were if I guessed +50).

SO increase accidents, install speed cameras, accidents tail off as people get used to the new road layout.

Nah they wouldn't do that.

i see a cunning plan being formed!

ninja

Lazydonkey · Post by **Lazydonkey** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:40 am

pete wrote:It is also my misfortune to drive the Bellshill- E/K road a lot. Yes the speed limit has dropped (as it has dropping into Bellshill from the M8). No signs to advertise the fact (the normal red "New Speed Limit" signs are noticable only by their absence) but according to my brother-in-law never seen before speed traps have become a regular occurence.

The only things to advertise this are the smallest of small, only normally used as repeater signs, speed limit signs. F*ckers.

I'm on this road every day to and fron work and I only noticed the signs yesterday........fair to say i was doing a wee bit more than 50 at the time.

I've now take a different route hoem cos i can't risk it

MacK · Post by **MacK** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 1:14 pm

[quote="Shug
It's been more than a few months since you were on it, hasn't it?

http://www.cbrd.co.uk/motorway/m77/[/quote]

Well it is less than a year since the extension was completed...so that's a 'few' months

offshorematt · Post by **offshorematt** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 1:40 pm

ninja wrote: i remember seeing these camera's down the M6 last year (although they were yellow) they're average speed camera's!

Oh sh1t. Drove Aberdeen to Southampton and back at the weekend. Ignored dozens of the yellow ones. Anybody want to buy a S1?

Scottish Elises

NEW SPEED CAMERA'S - M74 - REPLY FROM STRATHCLYDE POLICE

Re: NEW SPEED CAMERA'S - M74 - REPLY FROM STRATHCLYDE POLICE