cheap power ?

hiscot · Post by **hiscot** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:20 pm

read about this firm with postive remarks

http://www.angeltuning.co.uk/pdfs/carmake/Petrol26.pdf
i understand the mems 3 can be live mapped or flashed and ifso for the money looks better vfm than a 421 exhaust ( yet to see a 421 graph )

Post by **Shug** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:42 pm

Figures are meaningless with these gains IMHO - a few more peak BHP by shoving the peak torque up the rev range wouldn't change feel much. Get some before/after power curves from them - that'd be more illustrative...

Rich H · Post by **Rich H** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 1:54 pm

From personal experience my 4-2-1 turned my car from undrivable to awesome. Shug can vouch for the moaning

Post by **Shug** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:38 pm

Just cos you're too much of a blouse to change into second when you drop below ninety

You have five gears - use 'em

Rich H · Post by **Rich H** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:45 pm

4 for round town and 1 for the m-way... I do use them...

Mechanical Sympathy is not a rude word

I have to admit that the red mist does decend now and then and I test the rev limiter.... I was planning on testing the 111r properly but it got wind of my plans then blew up on me.

Hopefully going to get out on the Norlog trackday at Donny, finally pop my [trackday] cherry (As it were!)

BiggestNizzy · Post by **BiggestNizzy** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:22 pm

RICHARDHUMBLE wrote:4 for round town and 1 for the m-way... I do use them...

5th gear is for motorway unless you have a close ratio box

if your wizzing round country lanes in 5th your a psycho! or not pushing hard enough in 4th

Dominic · Post by **Dominic** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:26 pm

For cheap power / performance gain, you can always fold down your rear seats

.....for those who have rear seats

Rich H · Post by **Rich H** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:39 pm

I have a CR box... Not been on a blast for some time now

Been a bit reluctant to with the damage on the front and the wobble but now I just need the time...

I fold the back seats down in the porker and it improves the 0-60 time to under 10 seconds!

Although its currently doing 200-400 mpg of 15W50

but I comp tested it and it came in at 185psi on all 4, Haynes manual says it was 145 new! Probably all the oily clag built up in there

Post by **Shug** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:29 pm

RICHARDHUMBLE wrote:
Although its currently doing 200-400 mpg of 15W50 but I comp tested it and it came in at 185psi on all 4, Haynes manual says it was 145 new! Probably all the oily clag built up in there

Yeah, it's non-interference isn't it? There's probably a tattie patch built up around the top of the chamber and you're actually running a mahoosive CR. I forsee the head exiting via the bonnet (a la Goose in Top Gun) sometime soon

Rich H · Post by **Rich H** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:35 pm

Possibly....

Head is coming off soon to change over to EFI anyway, I'll clean it all out then.

hiscot · Post by **hiscot** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:07 pm

Shug wrote:Figures are meaningless with these gains IMHO - a few more peak BHP by shoving the peak torque up the rev range wouldn't change feel much. Get some before/after power curves from them - that'd be more illustrative...

they are willing to do this at your r/r cost and even g/tee money back
this is an emerald before and after however its not done on independment rollers but their own

http://www.willfly.net/engine.html

Post by **Shug** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 10:15 am

FWIW, I watched and saw my completely standard S1 develop 156bhp when given a going over on an RR in Aberdeen several years ago. If you hold it on your own rollers it's very easy to prove whatever you want to prove, if you know how to fudge them. The MEMS seems to have different power maps that it flips - problem is, it changes them right back when the load drops. My car had no lasting improvement from that session.

If they won't let you verify it on an independant road, they are selling snake oil IMHO. Take it from one who owns up to having been fooled.

Incidentally, that same 'tuner' subsequently rebuilt Uldis' engine and made the worst job of it anyone had ever seen. It needed a head skim and he skimmed it squint. Junked the head. He then sold up and went into hiding (as would I, if Uldis was after my blood....)

Rich H · Post by **Rich H** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:34 am

How do you manage to skim it squint? That would take quite alot of setup to achieve!?

The top of the head is parallel to the bottom so just slap it on the milling machine, bolt it down, spin up the fly cutter and skim away. The bed must have been on the piss something terrible!

Post by **Shug** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:00 pm

RICHARDHUMBLE wrote:How do you manage to skim it squint? That would take quite alot of setup to achieve!?

The top of the head is parallel to the bottom so just slap it on the milling machine, bolt it down, spin up the fly cutter and skim away. The bed must have been on the piss something terrible!

Strangely, I believe Uldis wanted to ask the same question.... Kinda hard to get a proper response when the dude is running for the hills....