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fuel rail leak

Post by robin » Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:31 pm

changed fuel rail earlier and went for test run. All was well. Popped out this eve and now heavy leak under throttle body. Anything obvious I could have done wrong? Hope it is just that the two screws at left end of rail are loose. Are there any seals that must be replaced each time?
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Re: fuel rail leak

Post by r10crw » Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:04 pm

Hi Robin can you tell where its leaking from,
Strange it should only leak under full throttle? Its not a boosted car that has VFPR on it? If not then the fuel pressure should be at a constant pressure regardless of load so could it be the fuel pipe is under strain then when under load the torque move of the engine is stressing the connector?
I changed several fuel rails and never had an issue with seals so dont think your suppossed to change o rings etc.
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Re: fuel rail leak

Post by roadboy » Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:17 pm

Is this a K series Robin? If so there is an o ring in the feed end of the rail that can sometime be a pain once its been removed. I usually replace it with a smear of grease to stop it getting nipped on the way in.

That's the only place I can think it would leak from near the throttle body.

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Re: fuel rail leak

Post by robin » Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:36 pm

Hi Dan - yes K series - I thought might be the problem - I've probably knackered the O-ring. Still at least it failed today rather than on the motorway with a red-hot exhaust!

Craig, it leaks all the time - the leak is from underneath the throttle body (which is where the metal pipe with the elbow pipe in it meets the plastic fuel rail).

I'll remove some stuff and see whether the screws will tighten further - if not, I'll remove the fuel line again and see if I have a replacement (I had once upon a time ...).

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Re: fuel rail leak

Post by r10crw » Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:58 pm

Ahh misread. Long way but ive a complete manifold sitting and have new orings if your stuck.
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Re: fuel rail leak

Post by robin » Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:06 am

OK, I had nicked the O-ring. Put that down to getting up to early :-)

So I need to source a replacement before Thursday! Anyone know what the actual dimensions are? It would appear to be 8x3.5 (mm, measuring ID and cross-section diameter).

Halfords do an O-ring kit but it doesn't look like it has that dimension.

Anyone got any ideas where to get one in or around Edinburgh - will ring Murrays and see if they have them, though it seems an unlikely thing for them to have in stock.

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Re: fuel rail leak

Post by roadboy » Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:17 am

I've probably got some in the workshop Robin.

I'll have a look this afternoon and can stick a couple in the post on Monday for you.

Dan

p.s. It's easy to catch the O ring, they're a bugger to squeeze in.
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Re: fuel rail leak

Post by robin » Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:23 am

Thanks Dan. I've PM'd my home address to you. I'll still look see if I can get something here as I would like to get it back together and tested today.
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Re: fuel rail leak

Post by woody » Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:44 am

Will have a look tomorrow if Dan hasn't got any.

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Re: fuel rail leak

Post by Kayfur » Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:46 pm

Robin,

I have both a fuel rail ( from an EU3 1.8k ) and also a large box of variously sized o-rings. I can bring them to you this afternoon.
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Re: fuel rail leak

Post by robin » Sun Aug 14, 2011 1:43 pm

Hi all,

I found a spare in Lawrence's garage so sorted for now. Will still order a couple of replacements though, in case the one I've fitted bursts :-)

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Re: fuel rail leak

Post by campbell » Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:56 am

robin wrote:Hi all,

I found a spare in Lawrence's garage
Bravo to that!!
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Re: fuel rail leak

Post by Shug » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:26 pm

roadboy wrote:I've probably got some in the workshop Robin.

I'll have a look this afternoon and can stick a couple in the post on Monday for you.

Dan

p.s. It's easy to catch the O ring, they're a bugger to squeeze in.
Yup - every fecking time I've disconnected that union, I've knackered that O ring trying to get it back together. My Dad had a big bargain box of o-rings from somewhere that's got some of the right size.
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Re: fuel rail leak

Post by campbell » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:29 pm

And welcome back from hols, mister! Very quiet now that the mad-mob have headed off on their secret adventure to the continent.

I think Robin has a stash of O-rings in his boot after a bulk order, by thought-control, from our pals at Murray.
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