TRACKDAY TUITION

[mac]

No Andrew I wasnt at it but the instructor thing at Knockhill is defo something im going to get involved in this season, are you still on course for a full season in the XRs?

About 80% sure of a full season. I am def starting the year but for going to uni and that money is going to be really really tight at the last 3 meetings of the year. But im sure ill find a way to finish the season

Are you old enough to go to uni? - I've seen you around Kh a few times now and always wonder why they were letting a 12 year old on track. Then again, Policemen, postmen etc are all starting to look younger to me these days too - must be my age





Mac

[robin]

You also need to be clear on which car you're going to use and what the insurance position is.

In particular if you are driving a customer's car on a track day and there is an incident, there would be no insurance cover from anyone else, so you would need to be insured or you would need the customer to sign a disclaimer to cover that.

Conversely if you're going to have customers drive your car on track, you would probably want some kind of cover, either provided by customer or just by you organising it and charging it on - otherwise it could get expensive very quickly!

There is a third case which is probably less contentious, which is that whilst under your instruction the driver spades their own car on track. I think this is the customer's problem, but I think you need to make sure that this is properly understood.

I am not trying to pour water on this - I want to avoid upsets and bad feeling by making sure that everyone knows where they stand up front should the worst happen.

Cheers,
Robin

[andreww]

Are you old enough to go to uni? - I've seen you around Kh a few times now and always wonder why they were letting a 12 year old on track. Then again, Policemen, postmen etc are all starting to look younger to me these days too - must be my age

Mac

LOL Im 19 ive taken 2 gap years already ! I'm going to do Management/Entrepreneurship and Finance so the plan is to become the next Branson, Gates or "insert name of rich businessman here" and be able to pay my own way through racing as noone seems to want to sponsor me

Do you attend a lot of the race meetings ?

[mac]

I've been to one of two of the race meetings last year when Gordon Wright was running in them.


But I've seen your car at the trackdays more often.


Mac

[hgracer]

You also need to be clear on which car you're going to use and what the insurance position is.

In particular if you are driving a customer's car on a track day and there is an incident, there would be no insurance cover from anyone else, so you would need to be insured or you would need the customer to sign a disclaimer to cover that.

Conversely if you're going to have customers drive your car on track, you would probably want some kind of cover, either provided by customer or just by you organising it and charging it on - otherwise it could get expensive very quickly!

There is a third case which is probably less contentious, which is that whilst under your instruction the driver spades their own car on track. I think this is the customer's problem, but I think you need to make sure that this is properly understood.

I am not trying to pour water on this - I want to avoid upsets and bad feeling by making sure that everyone knows where they stand up front should the worst happen.

Cheers,
Robin

What you say about insurance is correct but I am offering to sit in the passenger seat and hopefully tell you where you are going wrong and try to make you a little faster I would not drive your cars due to this exact thing if I crashed or someone crashed into me then what would happen, so to overcome this I am only offering a tuition from the passenger seat which is just as good really as if I was driving the only thing you would learn would be how good your underpants are

[mac]

How about letting us know what we would get for our money and what your credentials are?


I'm not being cheeky - just wanting to get a handle on what your "qualifications" are.


Most folk here have been or have the option of going down to do driver training with Andrew Walsh who's driving career and history is well documented in lotus circle and is also ADT certified to the best of my knowledge.

Not trying to pour cold water on the idea - I might be interested too as I have aspirations of racing at Kh in the next year or so.

I suppose what I'm asking is why you and not Andrew, Brian J or Malcolm for instance?


Mac

[Brian J]

I suppose what I'm asking is why you and not Andrew, Brian J or Malcolm for instance?

Mac

Fair point - despite Brands Hatch Race School in my youth, 3 seasons in XR2s, driving at least 10 UK circuits with tuition at most, plus Walshy days, I remain a fairly mediocre driver, with, I reckon, nothing much to teach Mac (about driving that is - I reserve my position on the relative merits of e.g. the '97 and '98 vintages of Burgundy or the best recording of Richard Strauss's "Der Rosenkavalier" - among my more effete interests )

[greyrigg]

reserve my position on the relative merits of e.g. the '97 and '98 vintages of Burgundy or the best recording of Richard Strauss's "Der Rosenkavalier" - among my more effete interests Smile

Very good Brian. A cultured driver is a very hard thing to find, not too many of us left...................

I have been meaning to get my ARDS instructor qualification and made some progress on this at the Autosport show,all be it in the bar.

I am not wanting to do this to make money as such, just a wee business idea to set off some of my costs and have a bit of fun. I'll keep you posted about developments.

Malcolm

[mac]

I suppose what I'm asking is why you and not Andrew, Brian J or Malcolm for instance?

Mac

Fair point - despite Brands Hatch Race School in my youth, 3 seasons in XR2s, driving at least 10 UK circuits with tuition at most, plus Walshy days, I remain a fairly mediocre driver, with, I reckon, nothing much to teach Mac (about driving that is - I reserve my position on the relative merits of e.g. the '97 and '98 vintages of Burgundy or the best recording of Richard Strauss's "Der Rosenkavalier" - among my more effete interests )

Gee Shucks - Think the reset button has been well a truely pressed with the arrival of the Caterham though

I actually quite like to learn to appreciate wine - at the moment all I can drink is the very sweet stuff - Brachetto (sp) from Italy or Asti



Mac

[Brian J]

Mac,

For the Caterham, you need to get Malcolm to get on with his plan or (Malcolm to close his eyes now - enlist Iain Cowie for some pointers.

There would be a slight snag about combining race tuition with wine tasting in a single package! Good wine can only be appreciated with good food too. Maybe sometime a demand for a Scottish_Elisers' gourmet outing? A step too far to suggest an opera as well?

Brian J

(currently Hon Sec Friends of Scottish Opera & Chairman of Scottish Society of Epicureans)

[Brian J]

P.S.

Incidentally, Malcolm's signature line should read:

A meal without wine is like a day without sunshine

[mac]

Mac,

For the Caterham, you need to get Malcolm to get on with his plan

Good wine can only be appreciated with good food too. Maybe sometime a demand for a Scottish_Elisers' gourmet outing?

Brian J

(currently Hon Sec Friends of Scottish Opera & Chairman of Scottish Society of Epicureans)

Yup

I'm up for a gourmet food outing - Stephen did a posh supper run to Loch Fyne Oyster bar but it's hard to come back full of wine


Cheers


Mac

[robin]

It's definately a topic worth discussing - perhaps in a new topic.

Mac

And over a glass of wine, preferably with a meal

Robin

[mac]

Oddly enough I've got a poke of chips and a bottle of Buckie beside me


Mac