help - squeeeeeling brakes

[ninja]

i recently got new S2 turbo groved discs and mintex pads all round. since then my brakes have been squeeling like a pig any time i even think about applying them.

it's doing my fcuking head in!

i took the car back to the garage today who said they'd replace the pads under warranty FOC, but i bought the pads off eliseparts!! so i'd need to buy new pads which will cost beer money!

the garage are saying that the noise is due to the pads being too hard and so they need replaced! i had thought i might be a a simple new shim or copper slip job.

any thoughts? i can't believe i need new brake pads

ninja

[jj]

I thought they only do it because they are new. So, new pads wont help, as there is nothing wrong with the ones you have. Maybe need bedded in or used properly.

[gorrie]

The mintex pads I had on the BRM were very 'squealy' (is that a word?), and that was with copper slip on the back & anti-squeal shims. They are a harsher pad than OEM, so believe it is just a characteristic... although it is likely at it's worst right now if they haven't had a chance to bed in (they may grumble a bit just now also).

Did the garage bed them in to seal the pad, or was that left to you?

Thats my 2p.

[minkypotglory]

Just turn the music up Works everytime for me.

Mags

[robin]

Give them some stick - get them warmed up, then repeated heavy braking from 70 or so, then finally one monster stop from as fast as you can manage, and hold the brake pedal down hard for a minute or so, then drive off to let them cool down.

Of course you need to do this somewhere safe - probably not the M8

Cheers,
Robin

[Blaque]

Rough love is the only way........

I just turn the music up Works everytime for me.

[ninja]

Thanks guy's I'll go out and give my Elise some rough love tomorrow, weather permitting! She does like it when it's wet tho

Ninja

[Stewart]

resurrecting an old thread.

For FF7 I fitted a set of mintex pads all round. For the most of FF they were fine and it was only on the final day driving up through France that they began to squeal. Cool I thought, just like a real race car and obviously because of the treatment and the the heat that they had been exposed to in preceding few days. I was certain that the noise would soon subside once back in damp cold Scotland.

Admittedly I have probably only done a handful of miles since driving the car up the road, but last night when I went out they were squealing for all they were worth, which is not quite as cool a noise as I thought now that I am home

As the brakes are no longer new (3k) would the above techniques work or is there something mechanical that I need to attend to? I noticed that the pads came with large rubber stickers which are obviously intended to be stuck to the back face of the pad. As none of previous set of pads I have had (2 x greenstuff) have had these I didn't bother fitting. Is this perhaps the reason for so much noise?

Cheers

[mckeann]

If you want, either copper slip the backs of the pads, or fit those rubber shims, or go and re bed them as recomended by Robin

[mac]

DON'T try what DDtB did and apply the copaslip to the wrong side

[Mike Scib]

DON'T try what DDtB did and apply the copaslip to the wrong side

You must be joking......tell me you are

[Paolo]

Of course you need to do this somewhere safe - probably not the M8

Cheers,
Robin

[Stewart]

If you want, either copper slip the backs of the pads, or fit those rubber shims, or go and re bed them as recomended by Robin

Cheers. I did copper slip them in so will try re-bedding them and failing that take them out and add the rubber pads.

[mckeann]

For what its worth, i use copperslip when i fit pads, and i never have any squealing ever. I do tend to give them a lot of grief though. So maybe thats your answer

[meatball]

Does copperslip not just stop the pads rattling?