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ride height

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 5:48 pm
by jimbo
So the only thing that I'm disappointed with after all the work is the now slightly higher ride height (after going from LSS shocks to standard S2 Bilsteins). It's just a shame that it looks less dynamic now :(

Given that I want to at some point Elige it, any way to slightly reduce the height again?

Cheers

Re: ride height

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 5:52 pm
by iain3915

Re: ride height

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:46 pm
by Gourlay83
I'm sure the shocks have 3 positions for the spring platforms to sit on. You need to compress the spring to gain access to the circlip, then move it to a new position and release spring.

The standard position is too high.

Hope that helps
Alan

Re: ride height

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:01 pm
by jimbo
Already got them Iain, cheers though.

Thanks Alan, I'll give Craig and investigate :thumbsup

Re: ride height

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 9:03 pm
by robin
Did you already get the lower of the two bracket types they sell?

You can also remove the bracket and slot the mounting holes to further lower the ride height.

What ride height do you have now?

Robin

Re: ride height

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 9:24 pm
by mwmackenzie
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I have marked the 3 positions you can adjust the circlip to... as above, comress spring with spring compressors, motorbike ones fit best ;) and either remove the spring then move circlip or just move the spring out of the way and lift the spring seat/collar out of the way to reveal the circlip then move to a lower ride height.... will not go anywhere near as low as LSS but might improve the current stance... then again it might already be set to the lowest?

All the best buddy! :thumbsup

Re: ride height

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 9:38 pm
by woody
Do you still have the LSS? The spring platforms are just sleeves that also locate into a circlip on the body. It may be possible to use these with your new dampers and springs to lower your car. It may also not be advisable dye to the softer setup.

Re: ride height

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 9:59 pm
by Gourlay83
Probably worth noting that changing your ride height will affect the geo of the car, so really worth measuring it before you do anything.

No idea what they are standard, but 120mm Rear (measuring from the where the tub ends) and 110mm front ( where the wishbone mounts) tends to be a good starting point.

Re: ride height

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:07 am
by thesurfbus
I phoned Elise Parts to order some Lowering Brackets (S1 with Bilsteins), however they told me that the Lowered brackets are the ones to fit Bilsteins on an S1 and that it won't actually lower the car. I have moved the circlips to their lowest position, didn't make much difference, might try slotting the brackets.

Re: ride height

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:33 am
by r10crw
I had S1, Billies giving 110/120 ride height with brackets from EP and as Alan mentioned above it tends to be a nice compromise.

Not sure I would like the hole being slotted, guess with the spring on they will always be held against the bottom of the slot so not a big issue but isn't it quite difficult to slot a hole properly? Could you just weld the hold closed and grind flat, re drill where you actually want the hole.

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Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:05 pm
by Rosssco
I'm not a fan of slotting the holes in the brackets for additional lowering personnally.. Another option is to remove the spring completely, and have a circlip groove machined further up to permit more lowering than standard circlip positions. I know of a VX220 that has done this. You would need to ensure the spring is not loose, and obviously you are reducing damper travel a bit, but...

I bought a pair of bike spring compressors you can borrow if you want to play with the circlip heights..

Re: ride height

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:21 pm
by woody
Rosssco wrote:I'm not a fan of slotting the holes in the brackets for additional lowering personnally.. Another option is to remove the spring completely, and have a circlip groove machined further up to permit more lowering than standard circlip positions. I know of a VX220 that has done this. You would need to ensure the spring is not loose, and obviously you are reducing damper travel a bit, but...

I bought a pair of bike spring compressors you can borrow if you want to play with the circlip heights..
See my point above. If Jimbo still has the LSS, the threaded sleeves will fit on the new Bilsteins (they use the same body) and it saves machining a groove.

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:11 pm
by jimbo
It's all good guys, spoke to Craig and they're set as they should be, just obviously not as low as I had the LSS stuff before. Doesn't recommend cocking around with it.

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