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				340R Colin's Honda Conversion
				Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:46 pm
				by Gourlay83
				
			 
			
					
				Re: 340R Colin's Honda Conversion
				Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:58 pm
				by Sanjøy
				Let me know if I can help with any pics. 
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				Re: 340R Colin's Honda Conversion
				Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:59 pm
				by Gourlay83
				Sanjoy wrote:Let me know if I can help with any pics. 
S
Jim's Exhaust would be great. Trying to figure out if we can keep his Silencer
Cheers
Alan  

 
			
					
				Re: 340R Colin's Honda Conversion
				Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:25 am
				by Gareth
				 
 
Approx final costs would be of interest
 
			
					
				Re: 340R Colin's Honda Conversion
				Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:51 am
				by Gourlay83
				Hi Gareth, maybe see you at the college one of these days.
Looking around the £6000 mark but thats with a Kpro and an over the top manifold, so can be done for less. Thats the spec I would start with. Colin had the advantage of having VHPD with CR Box so they're worth more than the Honda lump. So he got the Engine/Box and some cash. So even with all the Engine work he is still half the price of a turn key.
Alan
			 
			
					
				Re: 340R Colin's Honda Conversion
				Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:33 pm
				by Jacobite
				Glad some one else has seen the light on Honda power  

, the addictive 2ed cam, Jims exhaust  Just sounds  the dogs, as well as  better  fuel consumption too regularly getting  over  37  even though  mines been  on the second cam more in the past month than in ages  giving an entertaining drive to work
 
			
					
				Re: 340R Colin's Honda Conversion
				Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:10 pm
				by DavieK
				Really enjoy threads like this  
 
 
keep us updated!
 
			
					
				Re: 340R Colin's Honda Conversion
				Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 7:55 am
				by shortie2
				My experience lies with the F20 engine (s2000) which is a very similar beast, if you are getting a bespoke manifold made ask the guy to replicate hondas dimensions closely, (when i got mine it was 20hp down because of a 'super duper' manifold that actually reduced power !!), mappable Vtec really helps and really improves low down grunt ( i use RTD but there are loads of others), Big throttle bodies like 48mm jenveys and long inlet to butterfly length dont really affect peak power but really fill out the mid range well, we spent a bit of time at agra race engines over xmas on their dyno and learnt loads, those of you with any respect for engines dont look !!!        
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jrc0JSutbfg          255bhp and 185 ft/lbs from an internally std engine  

 
			
					
				Re: 340R Colin's Honda Conversion
				Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:31 am
				by Gourlay83
				shortie2 wrote:My experience lies with the F20 engine (s2000) which is a very similar beast, if you are getting a bespoke manifold made ask the guy to replicate hondas dimensions closely, (when i got mine it was 20hp down because of a 'super duper' manifold that actually reduced power !!), mappable Vtec really helps and really improves low down grunt ( i use RTD but there are loads of others), Big throttle bodies like 48mm jenveys and long inlet to butterfly length dont really affect peak power but really fill out the mid range well, we spent a bit of time at agra race engines over xmas on their dyno and learnt loads, those of you with any respect for engines dont look !!!        
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jrc0JSutbfg          255bhp and 185 ft/lbs from an internally std engine  

 
Jim@2bular is making the manifold and he has done plenty to know the correct primary lengths and it is going over the top of the Subframe (Striaght Out). We looked at ITB's (jenveys) but you can't fit them in a 340R as you need long trumpets to get them to work properly and I would need a different type of ECU.
We have 
RBC manifold with a custom made throttle body, 
Fitting new uprated valvesprings 
Head skim with high compression head gasket and a set of 
Camshafts to suit the exhaust. All being made by Clockwise Motion.
Trying to get the most out of a standard bottom end and rev limit, i would expect around 250 BHP with a very flat torque curve (fingers crossed anyway  

  )
Alan
 
			
					
				Re: 340R Colin's Honda Conversion
				Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:04 am
				by Andy G
				get this one sorted chaps, and then i'll lend you mine next year for an upgrade  
 
   
 
Best of luck with it  

 
			
					
				Re: 340R Colin's Honda Conversion
				Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:22 am
				by Gourlay83
				Andy G wrote:get this one sorted chaps, and then i'll lend you mine next year for an upgrade  
 
   
 
Best of luck with it  

 
How about a 300 BHP one Andy ?
Same spec as above but with a 2.2 Bottom End/High Compression Pistons and heavier cams.
Fancy building one for myself, if funds and jen allow.
Alan
 
			
					
				Re: 340R Colin's Honda Conversion
				Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:59 am
				by Sanjøy
				I assume you saw the SELOC thread about PPC doing a K20 elise install next month ?
			 
			
					
				Re: 340R Colin's Honda Conversion
				Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:02 am
				by Gourlay83
				Sanjoy wrote:I assume you saw the SELOC thread about PPC doing a K20 elise install next month ?
Yeah, i did.
But haven't a clue what PPC is ??? Belive they're using the Stark Kit ....
Alan
 
			
					
				Re: 340R Colin's Honda Conversion
				Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:08 am
				by mwmackenzie
				Practical Performance Car, it's a magazine  

 
			
					
				Re: 340R Colin's Honda Conversion
				Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:10 am
				by Sanjøy
				Gourlay83 wrote:Sanjoy wrote:I assume you saw the SELOC thread about PPC doing a K20 elise install next month ?
Yeah, i did.
But haven't a clue what PPC is ??? Belive they're using the Stark Kit ....
Alan
 
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk/