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S1 Tyres

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:24 pm
by 111Robin
What are the recommendations for S1 tyres ?. Road use only. Advan Neovas ?. Are MMC still doing a deal on tyres ?. Still running P-Zeros after 11 years (waits for the slagging to start, exit stage left, garage queen) :oops:

Re: S1 Tyres

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:45 pm
by s29ttc
Think people recommend t1r's for daily use. I am just saving for new tyres and brakes for my s1 elise.

Re: S1 Tyres

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:13 pm
by Rich H
Can't go wrong with T1Rs in standard UK weather. Cheap and cheerful.

If you want more performance though you need to spend more! Camskill will get you a set of 4 T1Rs for under £300 (IIRC)

Re: S1 Tyres

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:02 am
by Victor Meldrew
Rich H wrote:Can't go wrong with T1Rs in standard UK weather. Cheap and cheerful.

If you want more performance though you need to spend more! Camskill will get you a set of 4 T1Rs for under £300 (IIRC)

:thumbsup

Re: S1 Tyres

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:27 am
by alicrozier
I think Lotus recommend the Yoko C-Drive
http://www.pistonheads.com/lotus/defaul ... ryId=14825

http://wiki.seloc.org/a/Tyres

S1 Tyre Options (depending on your rim width I guess) :
Toyo T1-R
Yokohama C-Drive
Yokohama Advan Neova LTS
Yokohama A048
Hankook RS-2
Toyo R888
Dunlop SP9000
Falken Ziex ZE-512
Kumho Ecsta Sport KU31

Re: S1 Tyres

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:53 am
by Shug
R888 is a track tyre though - agree it can be fine on the road, but won't see the mileage a road tyre will and of no use if the car isn't driven on track IMO.

Re: S1 Tyres

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:01 am
by Shug
PS- if you're running 11 year old P Zeros (congrats for not crashing) then even relatively 'cheap' T-1Rs will seem like a total revelation. The Zeros will be damn near solid by now. Good reports about the Kumhos at the end of Ali's list as well - even cheaper option.

Re: S1 Tyres

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:38 am
by tuscan_thunder
(don't R888s/AO48s not need toe links uprated?)

Re: S1 Tyres

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:44 am
by Shug
Only if you use them properly - the toe links won't spontaneously break :)

But yeah - if you were at the stage of using 888s or 48s on track properly, toe links are a must (having previously not bothered and subsequently had one let go on the road, I know what a hole it makes in your seat...)

Point is, track tyres are not needed on a car which obviously doesn't see a lot of high-speed cornering (as it's not in a hedge with the tyres it's got) :mrgreen:

Re: S1 Tyres

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:49 am
by Tom
Shug wrote:PS- if you're running 11 year old P Zeros (congrats for not crashing) then even relatively 'cheap' T-1Rs will seem like a total revelation. The Zeros will be damn near solid by now. Good reports about the Kumhos at the end of Ali's list as well - even cheaper option.
:withstupid

:thumbsup for the Kumhos. Think they were £181 a set delivered from Camskill.

I'd say they are pretty similar to T1Rs, but better in standing water, and also a bit less road noise in the dry. They're not great for the first 1000miles (but T1Rs are horrendous for the first 1000). So far only driven in winter on crappy/wet roads so never got any heat in them. Would like to get them on track to see how they compare to the T1Rs though....

HTH

Re: S1 Tyres

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:07 pm
by 111Robin
Thank's for the info'. Not bothered about looking for a budget tyre, I'd rather have the best performer for normal road use. I presumed the Advan Neova LTS having been specifically designed for the Elise would be the best option. Are the other tyres available not simply the correct size but not necessarily specifically designed for the Elise (ie. wall stiffness) ?.

Re: S1 Tyres

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:10 pm
by Shug
Neova LTS is the best option (if they are available) although Lotus now recommend the C-Drive (again, as per Ali's post) as a direct P-Zero replacement. FWIW, I'd go Neova. SE discount through MMC.

Re: S1 Tyres

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:03 pm
by tut
No brainer. Stunner Scudos. Last for ever and used in the Scottish Championships.

OK, only by me........

tut

Re: S1 Tyres

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:29 pm
by alicrozier
Shug wrote:Neova LTS is the best option (if they are available) although Lotus now recommend the C-Drive (again, as per Ali's post) as a direct P-Zero replacement. FWIW, I'd go Neova. SE discount through MMC.
Yup, I think the Yoko C-drive are also LTS code so specifically developed for the car though. C-Drives newer technology??? Neovas probably more proven history??? For your usage Robin I don't think you'll go wrong with either - inerested to see the price comparison.

Either will be a big improvement on the P-hero's... :shock: :lol:

Re: S1 Tyres

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:33 pm
by H8OAG
Shug said
PS- if you're running 11 year old P Zeros (congrats for not crashing) then even relatively 'cheap' T-1Rs will seem like a total revelation. The Zeros will be damn near solid by now.
Stick with the P Zeros.........they are just coming to their best at that vintage :thumbsup