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Rover MEMS
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:49 pm
by mac
Can anyone tell me what pin out on the rover MEMs triggers the tacho?
Cheers
Mac
Re: Rover MEMS
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:14 pm
by steve_weegie
I think its pin 12, going on the assumption that an emerald is MEMS pin compatable.... It should be a pulsed 12v signal, so you'll need a multimeter that can measure frequency to diagnose....
Still goosed then

Re: Rover MEMS
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:57 pm
by 111Robin
http://www.mgfcar.de/schedules/sb9.jpg
Link is to a schematic of the non-VVC MEMS. Doesn't appear to identify pin no.s but gives wire colours. Tacho is white with black tracer.
If it's VVC it's pin 9 per link below
http://homepage.swissonline.ch/TomsSeve ... %20RED.htm
Re: Rover MEMS
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:23 pm
by steve_weegie
Looking at the circuit diagram, the tacho drive is identified by C159-12. You'd read that as connector 159, pin 12
I thought all EU2 MEMS plugs were the same, as an emerald ECU is plug'n'play for these cars.... The pinouts seem to be "completely different" on those two diagrams...
Anyway.... Mac, as you dont have VVC, you need to look at the wiring coming from pin 12 to the tacho

Re: Rover MEMS
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:57 pm
by 111Robin
First schematic is correct then, showing pin 12 for non-VVC. Second link is for the VVC, pin 9, white wire/black tracer on both.
Re: Rover MEMS
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:40 am
by steve_weegie
Aah, i see... there are 2 versions of mems used... Mems 1.9 and Mems 2. This explains it

Re: Rover MEMS
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:46 am
by mac
Pin 12 would be where?
Which end do I start counting from ??

Re: Rover MEMS
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:51 am
by Kayfur
Mac,
if it's on the Caterham just look for the white + black wire on the smaller of the 2 ECU plugs. ( or maybe ask Mandy to look

)
Should connect to pin 2 of the grey (engine loom to chassis loom) multi plug situated about halfway along the O/S top chassis rail.
Re: Rover MEMS
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:10 pm
by mac
Kayfur wrote:Mac,
if it's on the Caterham just look for the white + black wire on the smaller of the 2 ECU plugs. ( or maybe ask Mandy to look

)
Should connect to pin 2 of the grey (engine loom to chassis loom) multi plug situated about halfway along the O/S top chassis rail.
I'm EU2 so only have one ECU plug.
With Black & White being shades then I should just about manage
Mac
Re: Rover MEMS
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:15 pm
by 111Robin
Looking on the pin side of the connector it will be on the bottom row, first on the left (ref. the second link that shows the opposite side of the VVC connector with the pin numbers identified (note it is pin 9 on the VVC, not 12 as per non-VVC).
Clear as mud ?
Re: Rover MEMS
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:34 pm
by Kayfur
Don't have the EU2 engine loom diagram but the tacho should still connect via the WB wire to the grey ( coffee coloured ?

) multi plug so you can trace back if the ECU pin numbering advice is confusing.
Re: Rover MEMS
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:38 pm
by mac
Kayfur wrote:Don't have the EU2 engine loom diagram but the tacho should still connect via the WB wire to the grey ( coffee coloured ?

) multi plug so you can trace back if the ECU pin numbering advice is confusing.
Apparently the coffee I drink is actually Lime Green in colour

Re: Rover MEMS
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:46 pm
by 111Robin
Re: Rover MEMS
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:50 pm
by ironside
Lawrence has the pin-out on his site:
http://www.hoymotorsport.pwp.blueyonder ... r_m3dk.htm
From that pin 12 is right and you can see in the diagram where it is.
Re: Rover MEMS
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:42 pm
by mac
Pin 12 works a treat.
The existing set up use an inductive loop on the king lead and a split the LT side of the coil. - Now sorted to run off the ecu output
