Emerald K6, trouble connecting
Re: Emerald K6, trouble connecting
I would turn off closed loop running until you get the O2 sensor reading working. No O2 sensor, no closed loop running.
With a narrow band sensor it makes no sense to use adaptive mode unless you're going to fill the whole AFR Target table with 14.7 as this is the only point that the narrowband sensor accurately measures.
The target AFR in closed loop (not adaptive) is always 14.7 anyway.
So for now I would fill the whole AFR Target table with 14.7, AFR Corrections with 0.0, Feedback mode with white (open loop).
Once you get your narrow band sensor working, the AFR indicator on the live settings page will show you the rich/lean condition (regardless of feedback mode). When you get it to start reading rich/lean (i.e. you've fixed the lambda input, sensor or configuration) then you can turn on closed loop running for the idle-cruise sites (i.e. 0-4,000RPM and closed-half throttle).
When you get a wideband sensor you can move to full adaptive with richer AFR entries in the high RPM/high throttle conditions and leaner settings elsewhere, especially if you don't have a cat ..
Cheers,
Robin
With a narrow band sensor it makes no sense to use adaptive mode unless you're going to fill the whole AFR Target table with 14.7 as this is the only point that the narrowband sensor accurately measures.
The target AFR in closed loop (not adaptive) is always 14.7 anyway.
So for now I would fill the whole AFR Target table with 14.7, AFR Corrections with 0.0, Feedback mode with white (open loop).
Once you get your narrow band sensor working, the AFR indicator on the live settings page will show you the rich/lean condition (regardless of feedback mode). When you get it to start reading rich/lean (i.e. you've fixed the lambda input, sensor or configuration) then you can turn on closed loop running for the idle-cruise sites (i.e. 0-4,000RPM and closed-half throttle).
When you get a wideband sensor you can move to full adaptive with richer AFR entries in the high RPM/high throttle conditions and leaner settings elsewhere, especially if you don't have a cat ..
Cheers,
Robin
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Re: Emerald K6, trouble connecting
P.S. if you read your ECU configuration and map files back out of the emerald and post them to me, I can double check your lambda configuration, though I'm sure you've got it right.
Cheers,
Robin
Cheers,
Robin
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Re: Emerald K6, trouble connecting
Alan, there is always Ricky if you can drive there. Knows the Emerald very well and can normally sort out most problems.
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Re: Emerald K6, trouble connecting
Robin - Files sent, thanks for the help.
Tut - It's not really a problem/fault, more learning how to set-up the Emerald properly. It's nothing like Kpro etc, so a bit a steep learning curve at the moment.
Alan
Tut - It's not really a problem/fault, more learning how to set-up the Emerald properly. It's nothing like Kpro etc, so a bit a steep learning curve at the moment.
Alan
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Re: Emerald K6, trouble connecting
Ok, but if it does not work out by tomorrow give Ricky a call.
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Re: Emerald K6, trouble connecting
Alan, I have a couple of O2 sensors, one at least is brand new. Give me a shout if you want to use one.
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Re: Emerald K6, trouble connecting
Mike, you're fantastic. Be in touch laterMikie711 wrote:Alan, I have a couple of O2 sensors, one at least is brand new. Give me a shout if you want to use one.
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Caterham R500 - The grenade powered one.
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Caterham R500 - The grenade powered one.
Re: Emerald K6, trouble connecting
Car is now fully back together (2 nights until 1.00am). So took the car out for a spin with the laptop connected.
The map is all over the place, and with no wideband or even a normal 02 sensor (for idle) it is impossible to know where my fueling is. I will have a go at sorting out the fueling tonight but looks like I won't be at amp3 with the Toxic Frog.
I believe one of the issues is down to fuel pressure, Caterham modify the regulator (or the spring) so a higher fuel pressure is achieved. I have a 3 bar FPR, so it may be lean everywhere.
I'll add fuel in stages and see how it drives.
Alan
The map is all over the place, and with no wideband or even a normal 02 sensor (for idle) it is impossible to know where my fueling is. I will have a go at sorting out the fueling tonight but looks like I won't be at amp3 with the Toxic Frog.
I believe one of the issues is down to fuel pressure, Caterham modify the regulator (or the spring) so a higher fuel pressure is achieved. I have a 3 bar FPR, so it may be lean everywhere.
I'll add fuel in stages and see how it drives.
Alan
"Chicks dig scars and I measure mine in feet"
Ford Fiesta Zetec \m/ - Get's me erse to work spec.
Caterham R500 - The grenade powered one.
Ford Fiesta Zetec \m/ - Get's me erse to work spec.
Caterham R500 - The grenade powered one.
Re: Emerald K6, trouble connecting
If you need someone to rag it about while you map it you only need to ask....... 
Seriously though - if you need anything bought or picked up im off today and can easily run about if you want.
Seriously though - if you need anything bought or picked up im off today and can easily run about if you want.
Re: Emerald K6, trouble connecting
That's me in.
Fueling is 90% there and drives well, so amp3 here we come
Capped the revs to 6500 just incase, plenty for a charity day.
Alan (Needs a beer)
Fueling is 90% there and drives well, so amp3 here we come
Capped the revs to 6500 just incase, plenty for a charity day.
Alan (Needs a beer)
"Chicks dig scars and I measure mine in feet"
Ford Fiesta Zetec \m/ - Get's me erse to work spec.
Caterham R500 - The grenade powered one.
Ford Fiesta Zetec \m/ - Get's me erse to work spec.
Caterham R500 - The grenade powered one.
Re: Emerald K6, trouble connecting
See you tomorrow Mikey, take you out in the frog if you like.mikeyb13 wrote:Happy days
"Chicks dig scars and I measure mine in feet"
Ford Fiesta Zetec \m/ - Get's me erse to work spec.
Caterham R500 - The grenade powered one.
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Caterham R500 - The grenade powered one.
Re: Emerald K6, trouble connecting
You might need to show him how to use the Terry's Chocolate Orange Wrapper firstGourlay83 wrote:See you tomorrow Mikey, take you out in the frog if you like.mikeyb13 wrote:Happy days
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