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higher milage elises

Post by sendmyusername » Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:23 am

Hi, just after a few quick answers, having spent the nightshift trawling through the forum, I realise what i'm asking will have been answered sometime in the past, and that i'm covering old ground, but my phone is literally burning a hole in my hand, so i'm just going to use this as hopefully a shortcut to the answers, then delete it once i've got them so that I don't clog up the forum with re-runs.
The dreaded chg fail - once an engine has let go, is it more or less likely to go again if it has the revised oem gasket fitted ?
Is a changed radiator, water pump, gasket on an 85,000miler just a sensible precaution, or more likely the sign of someone who is fed up changing gaskets ?
If engine has been well maintained, what is the general milage before a total stripdown is advisable/unavoidable ?

I know everyone will have their own opinion on this, i'm just after a general consencious, and a few informed opinions.
I had an s1 three years ago, and had very little problems with it, but did get to know my way around it.
I'm happy with most things about it, but the thought of a gubbed engine or major overhaul is begining to put me off a little

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Re: higher milage elises

Post by pete » Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:39 am

They all go through radiators, so it will have been replaced c30k?

If the gasket is fixed properly it should stay fixed. They tend to go at 30-40k.

I don't know the answer to the "how long does the engine last" question. Campbell has 100k in his...
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Post by campbell » Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:54 am

Yup, 100k and going strong. Robin helped me change the gasket pre-emptively at 60-70k miles as it happens, though. We did see some very light evidence of gasket wear. But we refitted an original OEM gasket. NOT the revised type.

30k miles and several track days later all remains well.

The main advice is to treat the engine well. Follow the simple rules about warming up, show some sympathy at track days etc. No substitute for that.

I also fitted a full alloy radiator at 90k or so, the original had actually held out well but again, a precautionary measure which I can't prove whether inspired or not ;-)
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Post by woody » Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:45 am

pete wrote:They all go through radiators, so it will have been replaced c30k?

S1's much less than s2's.

It's impossible to tell if a new head gasket makes it more likely to fail again or not without knowing the if head hardness, porosity, liner heights etc...were addressed and how.

More expensive than a head gasket would be worn suspension. Suspension units + ball joints + toe links & maybe bushes will be about a grand plus the bushes and fitting.

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Post by sendmyusername » Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:06 pm

Yeah, i'm planning on freshening up suspension etc, but wanting to spend my money on things like that, instead of money that I don't have on engine internals etc.
Plus i'm planning on doing quite a few miles, 10-15 a year, so if I get an average high milage one, it will be a silly high milage one once i'm finished... ( or it will be an average milage one with a 'tree feature')
I did 20,000 miles in the year I had my elise. Can't help thinking I may have been especially lucky with it, as not much went wrong with it.
Bought it for 8, 40,000mls, sold it for 8, 60,000mls.
2 services, front heating matrix, set of tyres.
I've seen one with silly high milage, but wasn't a colour I could live with, so by time I added on a respray it wouldn't have been cost effective, but as is, seemed like a good well fettled car.

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Post by campbell » Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:21 pm

They are meant to be driven, IMHO. More they are laid up, the more they start to rot...
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Post by Dominic » Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:32 am

campbell wrote:They are meant to be driven, IMHO. More they are laid up, the more they start to rot...
:withstupid I have advised a few pals looking to buy an elise that a very low milage car (S1) may be more problematic than one that has been used regularly.

After a certain point, I think the car's history is far more important than it's mileage. If it's been well cared for, and has some nice (but not extreme) modifications, then it's bound to be a winner. And also, check out the seller as much as the car. :thumbsup
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