Scottish Elises

What car should be next for Lotus and how will it be powered?

Esprit, and use the Toyota LFA V10 drivetrain.

Stop pissing about with other stupid sh*t and get on with it.

Scuffers wrote:Esprit, and use the Toyota LFA V10 drivetrain.

Stop pissing about with other stupid sh*t and get on with it.

Would be awesome but would the sales volume fill the coffers?

Head says the SUV but only if they get someone else to do the interior as the SQ5 etc would walk all over it.

Anyone know how many SUVs Lotus Motorsport have tweaked?

New Elise identical to the 1996 S1, as light and as cheap as possible, lightweight, low powered, reliable engine.

The one we started with and loved.

tut

ps:- I know that you can not halt progress or turn back the clock, but look what is happening with prices of low mileage, good condition, original S1's.

tut wrote:New Elise identical to the 1996 S1, as light and as cheap as possible, lightweight, low powered, reliable engine.

The one we started with and loved.

tut

ps:- I know that you can not halt progress or turn back the clock, but look what is happening with prices of low mileage, good condition, original S1's.

Regulations are the killer now no? Not watched the Elise Story in a long time but doubt they could do the same again due to them.

EU regs or global? Maybe a Brexit thing we could benefit from?

r10crw wrote:EU regs or global? Maybe a Brexit thing we could benefit from?

Wonder how many S1/S2s were sold in the EU as a % of the total?

S1 was homologated in Holland as it didn't meet UK regs IIRC. To go on sale in the EU, any car would have to meet EU regs anyway? Not sure if regs in the developed world are hugely different, with the exception perhaps of the US?

Sanjoy wrote:

Scuffers wrote:Esprit, and use the Toyota LFA V10 drivetrain.

Stop pissing about with other stupid sh*t and get on with it.

Would be awesome but would the sales volume fill the coffers?

Head says the SUV but only if they get someone else to do the interior as the SQ5 etc would walk all over it.

Anyone know how many SUVs Lotus Motorsport have tweaked?

well, McLaren don't seem to be short of customers for £300K+ cars do they?
neither do Ferarri, Porsche, etc.

Lotus cannot and never will be able to compete in a volume market, and to attempt to is just stupidity.

Ask yourself this question, how come McLaren came from zero to where they are now in under 10 years and why is it Lotus who would have started from a much more established base failed to achieve the same?

PS. I agree with TUT over a 'New' S1, back to basics, <£20K Elise please, and no, there is nothing in EU regs to stop this (if there was Caterham would have gone out of business along with Morgan etc), Most of the stuff quoted as problematic is either not that big a deal or does not apply to low volume manufacturers.

woody wrote:S1 was homologated in Holland as it didn't meet UK regs IIRC. To go on sale in the EU, any car would have to meet EU regs anyway? Not sure if regs in the developed world are hugely different, with the exception perhaps of the US?

not true.

no matter where in the EU it was homologated, it's the same standard across the EU.

reason they went with Holland was said to be about existing relationships but I was told at the time, cost had a lot to do with it.