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Tesla death

Post by tut » Fri Jul 01, 2016 11:32 am

The car was on Auto Pilot and crashed into the back of a lorry, driver killed.

Hopefully I will be off the road when these things become the norm. Get a bloody train or bus if you do not want to hold onto a steering wheel.

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Post by AllyY » Fri Jul 01, 2016 3:09 pm

Heard a bit about this on the radio this morning - the car couldn't differentiate between the white lorry and the "bright white sky", if I understood the explanation given correctly.
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Post by SAJ » Fri Jul 01, 2016 3:16 pm

Yep I don't think I could ever trust a computer to drive my car for me.
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Re: Tesla death

Post by neil » Fri Jul 01, 2016 5:30 pm

I hadn't realised the auto pilot only uses cameras. It's also got short range (16 feet) ultrasound but that's not going to be much use at speed. Presumably they'll be building radar into later versions to avoid these issues. Either that or demanding all trucks be painted scandal green.
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Post by j2 lot » Fri Jul 01, 2016 7:30 pm

Ironic that the driver had in the last month posted on Facebook that it had saved him from a previous crash and was a fantastic feature ....... :?
The truck was crossing in front of him and, as said above, the camera didn't differentiate between the wide side panel and white sky - unbelievable that there's no radar sensor fitted!!
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Re: Tesla death

Post by thinfourth » Fri Jul 01, 2016 7:36 pm

tut wrote:The car was on Auto Pilot and crashed into the back of a lorry, driver killed.

Hopefully I will be off the road when these things become the norm. Get a bloody train or bus if you do not want to hold onto a steering wheel.

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No it crashed into the side of a truck which turned across his path

So he was driving along perfectly legally and a lorry suddenly pulled across the road infront of him

Neither the car OR the driver had time to brake


The Lorry driver is being charged


Oh and PS

the same day 94 perfectly safe humans killed themselves in a car in the USA


I would still rather be driven by a tesla then your average american
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Re: Tesla death

Post by tut » Fri Jul 01, 2016 7:49 pm

The Tesla software actually read the situation wrongly.

It saw a white van against a bright sky with a lorry clearance almost the height of the car, did not brake, and the car went under the lorry with the windscreen taking the driver out.

However in the meantime many others were probably killed driving into the sun and doing the same thing manually.

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Re: Tesla death

Post by thinfourth » Sat Jul 02, 2016 10:32 am

tut wrote:The Tesla software actually read the situation wrongly.

It saw a white van against a bright sky with a lorry clearance almost the height of the car, did not brake, and the car went under the lorry with the windscreen taking the driver out.

However in the meantime many others were probably killed driving into the sun and doing the same thing manually.

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And don't forget

The driver of the tesla was killed because a human truck driver did something he should not of done.


I am not afraid or worried by the rise of the automated car as i think it will greatly reduce the amount of dumb people driving cars
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Re: Tesla death

Post by BiggestNizzy » Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:26 pm

Heard the driver was watching harry potter.
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Re: Tesla death

Post by Scuffers » Sat Jul 02, 2016 9:38 pm

thinfourth wrote:
tut wrote:The Tesla software actually read the situation wrongly.

It saw a white van against a bright sky with a lorry clearance almost the height of the car, did not brake, and the car went under the lorry with the windscreen taking the driver out.

However in the meantime many others were probably killed driving into the sun and doing the same thing manually.

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And don't forget

The driver of the tesla was killed because a human truck driver did something he should not of done.


I am not afraid or worried by the rise of the automated car as i think it will greatly reduce the amount of dumb people driving cars
what we don't know is what would have been the outcome even if the car had 'seen' the truck, there's not guarantee it would have been able to avid the accident.

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Re: Tesla death

Post by thinfourth » Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:04 am

Scuffers wrote: what we don't know is what would have been the outcome even if the car had 'seen' the truck, there's not guarantee it would have been able to avid the accident.
Also

While this is a weak point we must realise this weak point can be overcome with software and hardware changes

Being stupid like you typical human can't be overcome with hardware and software changes

Tesla autopilot is already safer per mile then Americans

It isn't up to UK standards yet for the simple fact that it hasn't driven in the UK long enough to total up enough miles to pas that milestone
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Re: Tesla death

Post by PhilA » Sun Jul 03, 2016 11:01 am

solution software is only as good as the developer / architect.
that relies on their experience :(
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Re: Tesla death

Post by Scuffers » Sun Jul 03, 2016 4:43 pm

PhilA wrote:solution software is only as good as the developer / architect.
that relies on their experience :(
no, it relies on testing/real-world data.

Tesla (and Google etc) are logging thousands of miles of data every day.

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