road tax discs.

[sendmyusername]

I know this is really childish, but seeing after october road tax no longer has to be displayed, and if you actually have a valid disc, you can take it out and discard it.
Is no one tempted to just stick an out of date one back on the window to annoy people that don't know about it ?
Personally i think it will increase non payment a lot, as it's not such a visual display that anyone in the street can see. Just now if you see a car in the street that some scroat is driving about, and the disc is out of date, it's obvious, whereas from october, there will be telling if it is or not, until he prangs it. Number plate recognition is one thing, but only any use if the car is correctly registered.
Rac reckon the £10M it saves them will be swallowed up by vastly increased non payment.
Mps in charge seem to think mkst people will just be honest (they will be) buts their rational is that non payers will be idebtifiably easily seems a bit flawed when cutting police and patrols.
Plus taxed cars are more likely to be insured etc...

[robin]

Only people who register the car in a false name/address will be able to not pay. Everyone else is auto-fined if they don't renew their tax or SORN.

To know the answer to your question you would have to know how many people were successfully caught/prosecuted using only the (lack of) visual tax disc. My guess is that it's not many.

ANPR will be everywhere before you know it ...

Cheers,
Robin

[Andy G]

With Robin on this - they aren't doing it to leave any leeway for non-payers.

If you know how hot they are in London with regards to congestion charging (24 hours to pay then fine is £120 or so, which you will have mailed out that day!), then I suspect that's the way this is heading, and pikees trying to dodge it will be fined quickly.

We've got number plate recognition where I live, and that's a golf course, so gives you an idea just how widespread this tech now is!

[BiggestNizzy]

Opens a good market for dodgy number plates.

1. Buy a car and put down a false name and address.
2. drive round the corner and put your dodgy number from someone who has the same car/colour combo and pays for tax and insurance.
3. Job done.

[j2 lot]

Nothing to stop people doing that now Nizzy, only means you need to buy the tax over the counter rather than on-line where it would be delivered to the false address.

[BiggestNizzy]

Nothing to stop people doing that now Nizzy, only means you need to buy the tax over the counter rather than on-line where it would be delivered to the false address.

My point is if your doing that your not going to be bothering with tax, insurance or licence.

Do we have to wait until they do something dodgy and get caught before we find out. If your a jakie bam living in an area thats twinned with beiruit it's what you have to do to get a car.

[pete]

According to teh radio last week no-one has been caught falsifying their vehicle identity to avoid tax/insurance.

So it probably doesn't happen, oh wait.

[mxvx]

This reminds me, I need to go online with my V5 details and register my cars before the end of the month?

[rossybee]

Daft Q - I have a sorned vehicle, how do I re-tax it for next month?

Still have the reminder form with 16 digit code

[tut]

Just use that along with your V5 on line.

tut

[rossybee]

Just use that along with your V5 on line.

tut

cheers

[mxvx]

and just to clarify, everyone with a car is supposed to go online and register their car regardless if they need tax or not before the end of the month?

[pete]

and just to clarify, everyone with a car is supposed to go online and register their car regardless if they need tax or not before the end of the month?

I really don't think so - they aren't even changing that much as they've been using ANPR to find non-payers for ages. In fact since thy introduced SORN they are only looking for people driving SORN'd cars as you get an automatic fine if if you don't tax them. (I got caught as one of my cars went to a mate in the trade so I got fined for not re-taxing it, even though it didn't need tax anymore.)

[Stephen]

They should just add the road tax to fuel. That way you pay for what you use. And you can't really dodge it.

[Dominic]

They should just add the road tax to fuel. That way you pay for what you use. And you can't really dodge it.

Seems like common sense to me.