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				Traffic Cop with Laser Gun Question...NLC
				Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:16 am
				by Peter76
				Just passed the big sign that says 'Welcome to Scotland' on the A1 yesterday afternoon and there was a traffic cop on a bridge pointing a laser gun at me. Is all this logged and speeding motorists sent tickets, or would they use it to measure your speed and then come after you and pull you over?? Say i had been doing about 90mph, would i be getting 3 points and £60 fine? 

 
			
					
				Re: Traffic Cop with Laser Gun Question...NLC
				Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:18 am
				by neil
				If it was a traffic cop they'd have to pull you over at the time.  They'd have to get pics to send you it in the post
			 
			
					
				Re: Traffic Cop with Laser Gun Question...NLC
				Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:10 am
				by tut
				That's the way I understand it as well, NIP's come through the post from Gatsos and scamvans, radar guns are a chase and stop.
For 90 and up to 95, most Forces will give you a fixed fine and three points, 95-100 is a court summons.
tut
			 
			
					
				Re: Traffic Cop with Laser Gun Question...NLC
				Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:13 am
				by meatball
				Mark 14 days on your calendar.....they have that long to get a NIP to you.
They can only "do" you up to that point.
			 
			
					
				Re: Traffic Cop with Laser Gun Question...NLC
				Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:14 am
				by neil
				tut wrote:For 90 and up to 95, most Forces will give you a fixed fine and three points, 95-100 is a court summons.
tut
I got a court summons once for 88 on the M6 passing Wigan.  Supposedly if you're from the wrong side of the border they cant give you the fixed penalty
 
			
					
				Re: Traffic Cop with Laser Gun Question...NLC
				Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:16 am
				by Shug
				neil wrote:tut wrote:For 90 and up to 95, most Forces will give you a fixed fine and three points, 95-100 is a court summons.
tut
I got a court summons once for 88 on the M6 passing Wigan.  Supposedly if you're from the wrong side of the border they cant give you the fixed penalty
 
I've had more than one cheeky wee three pointer fixed penalty from south of the border, so whoever told you that is telling porkies methinks.
Porkies? no?
meh....
 
			
					
				Re: Traffic Cop with Laser Gun Question...NLC
				Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:17 am
				by tut
				Campbell, does a court summons still have to be posted within six months of the offence?
Ian is sitting on five months and 7 days.
tut
			 
			
					
				Re: Traffic Cop with Laser Gun Question...NLC
				Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:19 am
				by Dominic
				Shug wrote:
..... whoever told you that is telling porkies methinks.
Porkies? no?
meh....
Oh dear.... think you have spending too much time in my company.  

 
			
					
				Re: Traffic Cop with Laser Gun Question...NLC
				Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:20 am
				by neil
				Shug wrote:neil wrote:tut wrote:For 90 and up to 95, most Forces will give you a fixed fine and three points, 95-100 is a court summons.
tut
I got a court summons once for 88 on the M6 passing Wigan.  Supposedly if you're from the wrong side of the border they cant give you the fixed penalty
 
I've had more than one cheeky wee three pointer fixed penalty from south of the border, so whoever told you that is telling porkies methinks.
Porkies? no?
meh....
 
 
 Bloody expensive porkies.  Can't remember exactly what that one cost me but it was considerably more than £60
 
			
					
				Re: Traffic Cop with Laser Gun Question...NLC
				Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:20 am
				by BiggestNizzy
				tut wrote:Campbell, does a court summons still have to be posted within six months of the offence?
Ian is sitting on five months and 7 days.
tut
http://www.motorlawyers.co.uk/court/summons.htm 
			
					
				Re: Traffic Cop with Laser Gun Question...NLC
				Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:22 am
				by tut
				I was stopped 40 miles south of Scotch Corner for my five points at 97.  That is where the police told me about the 95-100 band and that it would have been a fixed at under 95.  They also told me that they do not bother up to 85, but that it is not a National ruling, depends on the individual Force.
tut
			 
			
					
				Re: Traffic Cop with Laser Gun Question...NLC
				Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:32 am
				by tut
				Bollocks, a double whammy.  The police have to present the case to the PF within six months, but the PF can issue you with the summons when ever he wants to.
I think most people thought the same as I did.
tut
ps  It did not mention Countries but I presume it is the same in Scotland as it is in England.
			 
			
					
				Re: Traffic Cop with Laser Gun Question...NLC
				Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:33 am
				by Lazydonkey
				Be aware that some mobile foto gun things look awfully like normal radar guns.    A few years ago i thought i'd got away with it as they didnt chase and then got a letter through the post.
Dont think they are handheld but i was caught by an unmarked mondeo rather than scamera van.
			 
			
					
				Re: Traffic Cop with Laser Gun Question...NLC
				Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:35 am
				by meatball
				Tut,
I'll call you shortly.
			 
			
					
				Re: Traffic Cop with Laser Gun Question...NLC
				Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:47 am
				by jason
				Peter76 wrote:Just passed the big sign that says 'Welcome to Scotland' on the A1 yesterday afternoon and there was a traffic cop on a bridge pointing a laser gun at me.
Sneaky/clever (delete as you choose).  If it's the bridge immediately north of the Border laybys, then there's already a Gatso in the central reserve approx 50yds further on.  Possibly an attempt to spot drivers before they decelerate for the 'known' Gatso location?