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Europa
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:40 am
by Scotty C
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/415473.htm
Looks like a good deal?
I just cant get my head round the Europa, not sure if I would have one?.
Lawrence classed it as a S2VX?
Scotty
Re: Europa
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:50 am
by graeme
Strikes me as quite a sensible move for you, as long as you keep the 340R. Would make a great daily driver, and lets face it you'll never track it or road-run it while you've got a 340R in the garage, so what does it matter if it's a bit heavy and soft? Might be harder to sell on than a 240Cup though...?
Good sensible thinking IMO.
Re: Europa
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:01 am
by thinfourth
I think i really fancy one but it would have to be a keeper as i thin the value of them will plummet and then recover in many many years
Or buy one one plummet has finished as happened to s1 exiges
Re: Europa
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:10 am
by Scotty C
thinfourth wrote:I think i really fancy one but it would have to be a keeper as i thin the value of them will plummet and then recover in many many years
Or buy one one plummet has finished as happened to s1 exiges
I think the plummit will be worse whent the eagle comes out.
Not a bad car for 20K
Re: Europa
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:27 am
by thinfourth
Scotty C wrote:thinfourth wrote:I think i really fancy one but it would have to be a keeper as i thin the value of them will plummet and then recover in many many years
Or buy one one plummet has finished as happened to s1 exiges
I think the plummit will be worse whent the eagle comes out.
Not a bad car for 20K
yes but might be a better one for 15K
Re: Europa
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:35 am
by Andy G
just don't like them at all - think it looks like a korean coupe.
I'd be in any other model of Lotus ahead of that mate
Re: Europa
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:41 am
by tut
Agreed, I just do not take to it, and if you did decide to take it at any time to a distant trackday because you could not face the weather, I doubt if you would be happy with its performance.
With the price drop of the S/C Exiges at the moment they seem a better bet, comfort and performance, and Craig is already planning on the two upgrades that would take him upto 285hp.
tut
Re: Europa
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:00 am
by Dominic
I'm trying to figure out if it's interior is trimmed in leather, or the skin of a Weegie nedette.

Re: Europa
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:02 am
by tenkfeet
In the past I have said I did not like Europa's . Saw one on the M8 a few weeks back and though it looked great in Gun Metal colour. If I had the cash I would buy it .
Re: Europa
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:06 pm
by j2 lot
Wasn't convinced until I saw one on the road. Would seriously consider , and at that price looking really good.
Re: Europa
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:03 pm
by alicrozier
To complement the 340rR it makes a lot of sense - as fast as you ever need for the road and very habitable for a daily driver. Can you get them serviced at a VX dealer...
Saying that, if you go soft where do you stop?
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/413062.htm
Re: Europa
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:29 pm
by pfw
alicrozier wrote:To complement the 340rR it makes a lot of sense - as fast as you ever need for the road and very habitable for a daily driver. Can you get them serviced at a VX dealer...

You wouldn't want to get a VX serviced at VX dealer so taking a Europa in would be a very, very bad idea (although I'm sure they'd find lots of different bits to break).
I wasn't keen on Europas until I saw a grey one on the road coming towards me at speed. Looked much, much better in the flesh than the photos I'd seen

Re: Europa
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:33 pm
by Jamie84
tenkfeet wrote:In the past I have said I did not like Europa's . Saw one on the M8 a few weeks back and though it looked great in Gun Metal colour. If I had the cash I would buy it .
Like wise ,never rated them untill i saw a black one twice in the same week , looked

as.
Love it or hate it , I'am loving that interior minus the gay pouch on center consol.
Re: Europa
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:35 pm
by alicrozier
tongue was firmly in cheek there...

Re: Europa
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:45 pm
by Neil72
When I done the factory tour a few weeks ago, the place was chocked to the rafters with Elise's and Exige's but I could see no Europa's. Right at the end of the tour I eventually clocked one solitary Europa sitting in the corner looking sorry for itself. I quizzed the guy about this and he admitted that it had been a total disaster but said it was Proton who forced the car through and nobody at Lotus wanted to do it. He almost seemed embarrased to talk about it.
I don't think it's a bad car in isolation but unlikely to tempt someone out of their Elise/Exige and unlikely to temp buyers to jump ship from Cayman/Boxster/TT/350Z so in that respect, it sits in no mans land. And it's too expensive.