Fastest BMW diesel.

[douglasgdmw]

George, the 335d 4wd option was what swung it for me, as I would be coming out of the X5 to it, and wanted at least a wee bit of traction for the winter roads round about us! It's the Touring version I am going for, again as it's a bit more practical!

I would have looked at the D3, but don't thinks it going to be 4wd..

Paul

Paul,

Definitelty post up a review once you get it as would be interested to hear you opinions

George

[Scuffers]

It splits fairly simply. There are no diesel Supercars or Hyper cars on sale for obvious reasons, the same goes for our track cars, petrol rules.

However for the average family car or SUV, diesel seems to have taken over, again for obvious reasons.

tut

exactly, take money out of the equation, and petrol wins hands down.

In the case of Diesels in racing - in all cases the Diesel was given totally different rules, theoretically to give parity with a petrol, but in Endurance racing it weighted the regs very heavily in favour of Diesel. All for marketing purposes for the manufacturer involved.

very much so, for Lemans, the rules are:

Naturally aspirated engines limited to 3400 cc (207.5 ci). Turbochargers and superchargers allowed for petrol engines with a maximum displacement of 2000 cc (122 ci) and for diesel engines with a maximum displacement of 3700 cc (225.8 ci), restrictor-limited to around 700 bhp. No limits on the number of cylinders for any type of engine.

so, you have NA petrol at 3.4L, turbo petrol at 2L or Dismal turbo at 3.7L

that's called parity.


Yes, back to BMW, the new 335d engine is good, however, looking at the numbers, it's 'power band' is basically 1,000 revs wide, great match to the 8 speed box mind.

[rossybee]

Just picked up my assorted PMs, as I'm on nightshift.

I'd like to apologise to anyone I may have insulted (don't think I was particularly abusive, but hey-ho), I'll just add diesel v petrol to my list of futile discussion subjects, sat right beside religion and politics.

[tut]

Hasn't a Disealsal one Le mans for the past few years ?

Best spelling yet Graeme.

tut

followed by spelling won "one" ! oops

Graeme, not sure if you are actually disealsalystic or not, there are a few on here, but if so you will get the ssip taken out of you just as the rest of us do for our various disabilities.

Actually I believe that I lead the field in that department anyway.

tut

ps:- if I remember correctly I believe that Scuffers is dyslexic, if so he must put everything through a chell specker.

[Sanjøy]

Did Brian not takes the Mrs diesel Jag on track? Boom thread over.

[tut]

He certainly took A Jag on track, I was there that day, arrived straight from work, immaculate in suit and tie, and threw it around the track.

On second thoughts he probably did not throw it, he was too smooth a driver for that. Still think of him. He and Obi should still be with us.

tut

[rossybee]

ISTR Iain "Skyenet" taking a Disco 2 on KH also?

[ruadh08]

ISTR Iain "Skyenet" taking a Disco 2 on KH also?

I can beat that, by taking my diesel Rangie round the Nurburgring, with 4 fellow SE'ers on board, and Ape trying to get past us, by sending us texts, telling us to get out of the way, and stop causing such a smokescreen!

[H8OAG]

ISTR Iain "Skyenet" taking a Disco 2 on KH also?

I can beat that, by taking my diesel Rangie round the Nurburgring, with 4 fellow SE'ers on board, and Ape trying to get past us, by sending us texts, telling us to get out of the way, and stop causing such a smokescreen!

Memories...........
I also remember WankR hounding EVO Magazines "Harry Metcalfe" in his Carrera GT on the hairpins back into Adenau

However back on thread..................Petrol versus Diesel

I'm with Scuffers...............
Give me a petrol Alpina B3 over a D3

Not a bad way to spend £53k
A respectable 404bhp and 600Nm (the same torque output as Gareth's Labrador carrying 6.2-litre V8-powered Mercedes C63 AMG)
Rarer than all your fookin M3's ....................and no diesel clatter

[Peter]

Not a bad way to spend £53k
A respectable 404bhp and 600Nm (the same torque output as Gareth's Labrador carrying 6.2-litre V8-powered Mercedes C63 AMG)
Rarer than all your fookin M3's ....................and no diesel clatter

Or even the same spec in a smaller 1 series..

[tut]

BMW 1

You can not get any lower............

tut

[Dominic]

Personally, I think a deisel engine would be great in an Elise. The question is, which one?: The VAG 2.0 could be fairly decent.

[woody]

Personally, I think a deisel engine would be great in an Elise. The question is, which one?: The VAG 2.0 could be fairly decent.

It's been done, although a 1.9 PD engine IIRC, could be interesting.

Could something similar work with endurance racing in the UK Scuffers?

[ruadh08]

ISTR Iain "Skyenet" taking a Disco 2 on KH also?

I can beat that, by taking my diesel Rangie round the Nurburgring, with 4 fellow SE'ers on board, and Ape trying to get past us, by sending us texts, telling us to get out of the way, and stop causing such a smokescreen!

have just dug out a photo to prove it. As you can see Ape was well behind, and had no chance of overtaking.............

[Scuffers]

Personally, I think a deisel engine would be great in an Elise. The question is, which one?: The VAG 2.0 could be fairly decent.

It's been done, although a 1.9 PD engine IIRC, could be interesting.

Could something similar work with endurance racing in the UK Scuffers?

it would work, but it would be terminally boring...

ignoring the power/torque issues, the biggest downer for a dismal is that they are heavy, both in engine weight and rotating mass, so they are somewhat lethargic, combine that with an Elise's light weight, what you end up with is a car with almost zero throttle response and thus no 'balance' or 'finesses'

yes, you could make it economical, but as most 24's these days your limited to 2 or 3 hour max driver stint, and a petrol Elise can do 3 already on fuel, where's the advantage?