Independence SE Poll

[Kelvin]

Don't you need to start another poll given when this one was first posted?

Has this been posted yet?

http://www.scottishreview.net/CarolCraig172.shtml

[BiggestNizzy]

[Rosssco]

[PhilA]

Heres a way to think on the currency union that Salmond keeps saying will happen, despite everyone else on the other side who would be involved in making that side of the decision saying it wont happen..

Why, if a CU is the best option for rUK, is Salmond needing to constantly threaten over debt?

[pete]

Why the pound has dipped...

http://www.neweconomics.org/blog/entry/ ... dependency

Krugman has been quoted very regularly in the last coupl eof days advising that he is against independence. He is also very much against austerity - he's a neo-Keynesian - which I htink htis article speaks to quite strongly..

TL;DR Stirling dropped not becasue Scotland can't go it alone, but because without Scotland the rUK spending deficit is too high.

[Rosssco]

Why the pound has dipped...

http://www.neweconomics.org/blog/entry/ ... dependency

Krugman has been quoted very regularly in the last coupl eof days advising that he is against independence. He is also very much against austerity - he's a neo-Keynesian - which I htink htis article speaks to quite strongly..

TL;DR Stirling dropped not becasue Scotland can't go it alone, but because without Scotland the rUK spending deficit is too high.

But what that link is essentially saying is that we will all suffer should Scotland break away, which is pretty obvious. The UK will suffer from the lack of contribution of oil (dependant on apportionment) but will be locked into a currency union that will shackle it to an extent, hence why UK politicians and the BoE is very cautious of this approach..

But hey, if its a case of "f*ck em", as long as we have our oil, go for it. People that see past an imaginary border may think differently.

[woody]

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/spl ... d-1.263204

An oldie that popped up on my radar today. How the world changes.

[David]

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/spl ... d-1.263204

An oldie that popped up on my radar today. How the world changes.

And I do believe we were to become the rich financial economy, just like Iceland. Something about the success of Ireland too. Oh well, I'll look forward to the Ruble, or is that the Dollar? I suppose it will depend who's offers the best jolly at the time. Nice to know we have a steady hand at the helm.

[neil]

Yes it's just as well we've got Westminster looking after us with all their financial wizards. I'm sure George Osbornes Art History degree is being put to good use protecting us from financial meltdown

[pete]

Yes it's just as well we've got Westminster looking after us with all their financial wizards. I'm sure George Osbornes Art History degree is being put to good use protecting us from financial meltdown

It's hilarious that we are being lectured on the dangers of financial recklessness by a group of politicians who managed to remove the checks and balances that caused the worst financial crisis in 80 years. Then increased our debt to GDP by threefold, then started blaming the poor.

[David]

Yes it's just as well we've got Westminster looking after us with all their financial wizards. I'm sure George Osbornes Art History degree is being put to good use protecting us from financial meltdown

It's hilarious that we are being lectured on the dangers of financial recklessness by a group of politicians who managed to remove the checks and balances that caused the worst financial crisis in 80 years. Then increased our debt to GDP by threefold, then started blaming the poor.

If you honestly believe that half a dozen characters at Westminster caused a global financial crisis, then I am afraid the brainwashing is complete. Sub prime lending has it's origins in America, Spain, Ireland, in fact, most developed countries had a role to play. Perhaps I'm scaremongering (I call it stating the facts), but we now have one of the the highest growth rates in Europe. We're maybe not in a good place yet, but it could have been a lot worse. You only need to look round Europe.

IMHO, independence will put an end to the recovery, more so in Scotland. No doubt Westminster will be blamed for standing in the way of independence and causing the problems we will face - but you've got to blame someone.

[neil]

Is the "recovery" not mainly based on rising property prices, which didn't even crash during the crash?
And no, I don't think a few chancers at Westminster are responsible for the global financial crisis, but equally I wouldn't trust them with the spare change in my pocket.

[pete]

Yes it's just as well we've got Westminster looking after us with all their financial wizards. I'm sure George Osbornes Art History degree is being put to good use protecting us from financial meltdown

It's hilarious that we are being lectured on the dangers of financial recklessness by a group of politicians who managed to remove the checks and balances that caused the worst financial crisis in 80 years. Then increased our debt to GDP by threefold, then started blaming the poor.

If you honestly believe that half a dozen characters at Westminster caused a global financial crisis, then I am afraid the brainwashing is complete.Sub prime lending has it's origins in America, Spain, Ireland...

A little bit of rhetoric on my part but if they had no part to play, as you seem to suggest, then what are they for?

Darling was chancellor, Brown was PM and chancellor, wasn't Osborne shadow Chancellor? None of them saw the crisis coming, none of them did anything to try and stop it. So fine, it's not their fault, it's Europeans to blame, it's the Americans. If the UK chancellor, home to one of the world's largest financial markets can neither predict it nor stop it nor anticipate it then what use are they?

And should they really be giving me advice on what my country is about to do wrong?

Maybe if they are the people to whom you choose to listen all we learn is that the brain washing is indeed complete.

[Lazydonkey]

I'll tell you what. They can't run a country but they've been amazingly effective at suppressing any pro indy journalist at any mainstream media outlet from publishing their thoughts.

Got to give Westminster credit for that.

[Jeremy]

It's hilarious that we are being lectured on the dangers of financial recklessness by a group of politicians who managed to remove the checks and balances that caused the worst financial crisis in 80 years. Then increased our debt to GDP by threefold, then started blaming the poor.

If you honestly believe that half a dozen characters at Westminster caused a global financial crisis, then I am afraid the brainwashing is complete.Sub prime lending has it's origins in America, Spain, Ireland...

A little bit of rhetoric on my part but if they had no part to play, as you seem to suggest, then what are they for?

Darling was chancellor, Brown was PM and chancellor, wasn't Osborne shadow Chancellor? None of them saw the crisis coming, none of them did anything to try and stop it. So fine, it's not their fault, it's Europeans to blame, it's the Americans. If the UK chancellor, home to one of the world's largest financial markets can neither predict it nor stop it nor anticipate it then what use are they?

And should they really be giving me advice on what my country is about to do wrong?

Maybe if they are the people to whom you choose to listen all we learn is that the brain washing is indeed complete.

Indeed.

Can you imagine the stupidity of seeking to form a currency union with such financially inept charlatans ?

Regards,

Jeremy