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Post by PhilA » Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:29 pm

went round to see it.
didnt look as bad as I first thought.
dunno what its like behind the wheels or under the trays.
quite a few bits not fitting as they should ;)

other not obvious stuff:
windscreen cracked.
near side pillar got a gap.
meh, too much, cant be bothered to list it all.
some pics:

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Post by Dominic » Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:43 pm

Damage to exhaust.. I guess you spun off backwards into a bank or something?

Spoke missing from the wheel.. that's a new trick!

I guess that must be a write off; damage to wheels = suspension = chasis? Over & above that; all new clams. Sorry to see it in that state :cry: . Good to see you tape repair to the light held up in the crash :)

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Post by Gareth » Fri Sep 22, 2006 9:12 pm

You could of washed it before the pics....

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Post by GregR » Sat Sep 23, 2006 8:55 am

holy sh*t mate - you pranged her good!

Even more glad to hear you're ok after seeing those!!
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Post by robin » Sat Sep 23, 2006 10:47 am

It's hard to tell from the pictures, but actually it doesn't look like chassis damage to me - usually you get at least one wheel pointing in a funny direction, or just hanging off or missing.

However, if you have damaged the windscreen surround then you are probably still looking at a write off, as it comes as part of the chassis IIRC.

Whatever ... the insurance company will soon tell you and given the state of the car I would be happy not to have it repaired - let them sell it for salvage.

Meanwhile I dug this photo out for another topic the other day - shows just how tough the wee beasties are :-)

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All the best - you will get over it and I hope you will get back into an Elise, though it takes a while to get the confidence back in the car, it will come I am sure.

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Post by tenkfeet » Sat Sep 23, 2006 11:13 am

Its amazing how strong an Elise is .

I like the way you put the grass in the door . A Lawrence Luellen Bowen inspired crash . :cry:
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Post by tut » Sat Sep 23, 2006 11:58 am

Robin

Still looks in better nick than mine............. <BG>

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Post by Novice Racer » Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:02 pm

[quote="robin"]It's hard to tell from the pictures, but actually it doesn't look like chassis damage to me - usually you get at least one wheel pointing in a funny direction, or just hanging off or missing.

However, if you have damaged the windscreen surround then you are probably still looking at a write off, as it comes as part of the chassis IIRC.

Whatever ... the insurance company will soon tell you and given the state of the car I would be happy not to have it repaired - let them sell it for salvage.

Meanwhile I dug this photo out for another topic the other day - shows just how tough the wee beasties are :-)

Robin

May look tough but it is deceleration injury that kills, not how together the car remains.

I have been on many a Medic 1 (specialist ambulance from Edinburgh Royal with 2 tauma doctors on board) trip some field where some poor chap's car has landed. Often these folks end up on the post mortem table.

Car and cabin can look fine, especially the bigger more expensive sorts, but excessive flexion/rotational injuries to spinal cord axons passing through cervical spine causes shearing and bleeding and can result in hemi or quadraplegia.

Also, deceleration of the brain in the cranium can also cause coup-contra-coup injury where haemorrhage happens both on the front of the brain (direction of travel) and the back (backward movement of brain against cranium after stopping). Otherwise, simply shear stress can cause diffuse axonal injury and brain stem death. And thats before we even get into bleeds and things you can see on CT scans.

These injuries are often not survivable and depend on speed rather than preservation of the car structure. Bye the way, I assume there was no passenger in that picture, or their head would be embedded on the edge of the windscreen surround.

NR :(

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Post by PhilA » Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:32 pm

some pics of where it landed

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u can see the grill in this next one. there was about 10 feet of ploughed ditched to this point, then the car seems to have jumped this clump of grassy stuff.
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i cried at this point
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Post by PhilA » Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:36 pm

my head still hurts. right on the top where i hit it off something.
guess thats it healing.

id love another elise :D

gotta wait to see what the insurers say.
also, ill be killed on the next imsurance premium - so not sure i could afford it.
did have the no claims protected tho.

went into the ditch with the rear left side first. then the horizon went mental!

the left rear wheel isnt pointing where it should.

looks like the broken wheel happened before i went in the ditch.
i cant explain it really.

just know my head mildy hurts :P

sure am glad i wasnt going fast!!
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Post by tut » Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:46 pm

Phil

When I wrote my first Elise off, with max no claims and protected, the Insurance Company barely increased my premium at all next time around.

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Post by PhilA » Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:49 pm

thats great news :D
there is hope then :D

and nice job on ur elise!
looking like a turtle ! :P
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Post by tenkfeet » Sat Sep 23, 2006 1:40 pm

tut wrote:Phil

When I wrote my first Elise off, with max no claims and protected, the Insurance Company barely increased my premium at all next time around.

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Fecking hell :shock: What did the damage to the roll bar ? Did you flip it ?
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Post by Tom » Sat Sep 23, 2006 1:41 pm

holy sh*t tut, you managed to bend the roll bar. What did you hit??

also, I believe there was a passenger in the car with Robin. A very lucky guy indeed....
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Post by tut » Sat Sep 23, 2006 2:31 pm

I actually clipped the grass verge when I sneezed, just a mile from home. Road was above the field, and I went end over end, landing on my wheels.

I went over a cow and slightly damaged its back, but dont think that caused the roll bar V. However the farmer claimed for damage to his award winning Scottish Champion in his claim, along with the demolition of his flat, rusty fence that I cleared by a mile.

Got away with a small scrape on the head, and bruised thighs. This was five days before tuttowers 2001, so had to buy an identical car on the Internet straight away as I did not tell anybody about the accident, get down to Berkshire to pick it up, and arrived home at 0200 Friday morning a few hours before the start of my own event.

Those were the days..........

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