Does anyone know Ninja's mobile number.?? Can they PM it to me??
Cheers.
Architect required.
Re: Architect required.
Kenny,kenny wrote:Then FFS dont ask an ArchitectTom wrote:Need advice on what can be done structurally to a flat.
Cheers.
I am a structural engineer, what do you want to know?
Would you be interested in doing a small (I think) job for me?
I've just got planning permission to re-do my garage (flat roof which leaks spectacularly to proper roof and sort of extending it a bit) - but I think I need an engineer to look at things like the existing foundations and walls to check they will take the weight of the new roof. I got a quote from one place (recommended by the architect) but it is for loads so I'd rather give money to someone who will spend the money wisely on cars rather than to someone who will just waste it!
Let me know if you can/want to help.
Pete
Pete,
Is the only reason your for sorting the garage the flat roof???
If so there are some excellent products on the market that will work well on a flat roof.
I had the same problem when I moved in here and I jet washed the existing roof and treated it with acropol (sp).
Nice and dry now.
Cheers
Mac
Is the only reason your for sorting the garage the flat roof???
If so there are some excellent products on the market that will work well on a flat roof.
I had the same problem when I moved in here and I jet washed the existing roof and treated it with acropol (sp).
Nice and dry now.
Cheers
Mac
S2 Elise (cobalt blue with stripes) - toy spec
Caterham 7 - hillclimb spec
Yamaha Thundercat - 2 wheeled toy spec
Caterham 7 - hillclimb spec
Yamaha Thundercat - 2 wheeled toy spec
Oh if only it were so easy.
The garage is essentially in two parts, the original part has a flat roof which has always leaked, according to the gardener who has worked for the house for years, probably because the drainage is comically bad. Then tacked onto the back is a glass/plastic/rotting wood lean-to which makes it a double length garage. It's probably unfair to say it leaks so much as gushes and occasionally cascades water. It seems to let in water even if it hasn't rained for weeks.
I've just got planning permission to rebuild the whole lot to the same dimensions but with a proper pitched roof.
All of which I'm actually quite excited about (somewhere nice to keep the car, boat, motorbike etc.*) but I need a structural engineer to confirm the existing walls will hold a heavier roof before I get a brickie in to tidy up what is there.
Thanks for the suggestion though...
Pete
*I don't actually have a motorbike or boat. I just want them and feel somewhere to store them is important
The garage is essentially in two parts, the original part has a flat roof which has always leaked, according to the gardener who has worked for the house for years, probably because the drainage is comically bad. Then tacked onto the back is a glass/plastic/rotting wood lean-to which makes it a double length garage. It's probably unfair to say it leaks so much as gushes and occasionally cascades water. It seems to let in water even if it hasn't rained for weeks.
I've just got planning permission to rebuild the whole lot to the same dimensions but with a proper pitched roof.
All of which I'm actually quite excited about (somewhere nice to keep the car, boat, motorbike etc.*) but I need a structural engineer to confirm the existing walls will hold a heavier roof before I get a brickie in to tidy up what is there.
Thanks for the suggestion though...
Pete
*I don't actually have a motorbike or boat. I just want them and feel somewhere to store them is important
Pete,
What are the walls constructed off at the moment?
Brick or block work.
Is it single or double skinned and does it have any butress on the wall (bits that stick out)
The load bearing properties of the wall aren't that important as the load will be carried straight down on the foundations and disapated, what is more important is that the walls don't "buckle" under the weight, hence the reason I ask about it's constrcution.
Providing that the garage has been properly designed in the first place I wouldn't think you would have much too worry about - the loading on a flat roof when exposed to snow fall ect would be more than the self weight of a pitched roof (providing your not planning on putting tiles on the roof that is)
I'm sure Ninja or Kenny will be along at some point to tell me that I'm either right or wrong (probably the latter)
Cheers
Mac
What are the walls constructed off at the moment?
Brick or block work.
Is it single or double skinned and does it have any butress on the wall (bits that stick out)
The load bearing properties of the wall aren't that important as the load will be carried straight down on the foundations and disapated, what is more important is that the walls don't "buckle" under the weight, hence the reason I ask about it's constrcution.
Providing that the garage has been properly designed in the first place I wouldn't think you would have much too worry about - the loading on a flat roof when exposed to snow fall ect would be more than the self weight of a pitched roof (providing your not planning on putting tiles on the roof that is)
I'm sure Ninja or Kenny will be along at some point to tell me that I'm either right or wrong (probably the latter)
Cheers
Mac
S2 Elise (cobalt blue with stripes) - toy spec
Caterham 7 - hillclimb spec
Yamaha Thundercat - 2 wheeled toy spec
Caterham 7 - hillclimb spec
Yamaha Thundercat - 2 wheeled toy spec
Thanks Mac,
I think you are right about the walls and obviously any new walls will be built strong enough but will I still not need an engineer for the building warrant?
The architect was doing it as a homer as it is such a small job, he said I'd need an engineer for something or another way back when I first spoke to him last August (he's not the fastest moving chap in the world. I did say to him I wasn't in a hurry which may, with hindsight, have been a mistake).
The planning was approved last week and he has since been in touch with a structural engineer on my behalf (but without my asking him to) who has sent me a contract detailing what he will do for me. The price seems a bit high to me and although I want to get it finished, OK started, I would much rather get another quote...
Obviously the other question (other than do any of the engineers want to work for me) is why have I turned to an internet car club for another quote rather than yellow pages??
Dunno. It always seems like a good place to get answers to questions though, but I am realising a get a lot more answers than i do answering. That might be becasue I know very little about:-
a) cars;
b) much else*.
Rest assured though I'll be in like flynn should something come up that I know somethign about.
Pete
*With the possible exception of aeroplanes. I have been keeping my eye out for any aviation type threads but nothing so far. Trust me though should anyone want to know anything about air traffic control I'm your man.
I think you are right about the walls and obviously any new walls will be built strong enough but will I still not need an engineer for the building warrant?
The architect was doing it as a homer as it is such a small job, he said I'd need an engineer for something or another way back when I first spoke to him last August (he's not the fastest moving chap in the world. I did say to him I wasn't in a hurry which may, with hindsight, have been a mistake).
The planning was approved last week and he has since been in touch with a structural engineer on my behalf (but without my asking him to) who has sent me a contract detailing what he will do for me. The price seems a bit high to me and although I want to get it finished, OK started, I would much rather get another quote...
Obviously the other question (other than do any of the engineers want to work for me) is why have I turned to an internet car club for another quote rather than yellow pages??
Dunno. It always seems like a good place to get answers to questions though, but I am realising a get a lot more answers than i do answering. That might be becasue I know very little about:-
a) cars;
b) much else*.
Rest assured though I'll be in like flynn should something come up that I know somethign about.
Pete
*With the possible exception of aeroplanes. I have been keeping my eye out for any aviation type threads but nothing so far. Trust me though should anyone want to know anything about air traffic control I'm your man.
you can do the building warrant yourself but it will take ages as building control will bog you down in red tape and will generally hold things up - they'll do this because you will basically be asking them to take responsibility for your design and they will not like this one bit. a design certificate from an engineer will speed things up because i would then be taking responsibility and liability for the design.
the wall will likely be fine for vertical load. buttresses and piers are normally there to strengthen against wind load rather than vertical load. again the existing founds are likely to be fine as after all the house will be founded onte same bearing strata (probably) and by default the founds will need to be about the same width as those for hte house - just from an ease of construction point of view - normally the wall width + 150mm either side.
so basically you'll be paying an engineer to take liability for the design - this should cost about £200-250 if done as a lump sum fee and £150 tbh if done on a time basis which would represent 2 hours work + the certification costs. based on the architect doing all the drawings and simply adding the engineers notes and details to his information (this is all standard and i can send you over some normal PDF notes and details if you want a lookie at them)
it can be done as a homer to save money but tbh it will drag on and on if you do it this way - building control have 12 weeks to approve the applications and believe me it will take 12 weeks if done without a design certificate. a design certificate in glasgow should speed this up to 3 weeks or so after the drawings are submitted, if the job is as simple as it sounds - providing the architect is not a muppet as it will be his drawings that will be submitted.
ninja
the wall will likely be fine for vertical load. buttresses and piers are normally there to strengthen against wind load rather than vertical load. again the existing founds are likely to be fine as after all the house will be founded onte same bearing strata (probably) and by default the founds will need to be about the same width as those for hte house - just from an ease of construction point of view - normally the wall width + 150mm either side.
so basically you'll be paying an engineer to take liability for the design - this should cost about £200-250 if done as a lump sum fee and £150 tbh if done on a time basis which would represent 2 hours work + the certification costs. based on the architect doing all the drawings and simply adding the engineers notes and details to his information (this is all standard and i can send you over some normal PDF notes and details if you want a lookie at them)
it can be done as a homer to save money but tbh it will drag on and on if you do it this way - building control have 12 weeks to approve the applications and believe me it will take 12 weeks if done without a design certificate. a design certificate in glasgow should speed this up to 3 weeks or so after the drawings are submitted, if the job is as simple as it sounds - providing the architect is not a muppet as it will be his drawings that will be submitted.
ninja
easypete wrote: Obviously the other question (other than do any of the engineers want to work for me) is why have I turned to an internet car club for another quote rather than yellow pages??
because if done on a time basis the job will be cheaper and i'll not be putting time against the job, as it'll be getting done out of business hours mainly. so you're looking at the certification costs and the time it takes to write you the contract (copy paste) and the fee letter (standard) + printing time
ninja
i could probably get this done today if your architect emails his drawings over to me:
chris.penman@fairhurst.co.uk
i'm in barrow on thursday and friday tho at meetings so if he's a bit slow then it would be done start of next week.
i'd be proposing a liability of £50k or so for the job, that should be sufficient to rebuild should i fcuk it up! lol
ninja
chris.penman@fairhurst.co.uk
i'm in barrow on thursday and friday tho at meetings so if he's a bit slow then it would be done start of next week.
i'd be proposing a liability of £50k or so for the job, that should be sufficient to rebuild should i fcuk it up! lol
ninja
Ninja you are a star. I've emailed the architect who will hopefully send you the drawings, based on previous experience, within the next 6 months or so.
Have a look at them and let me know how much you want - any questions get in touch. Will you need to inspect the property?
Pete
(I've emailed you my contact details)
Have a look at them and let me know how much you want - any questions get in touch. Will you need to inspect the property?
Pete
(I've emailed you my contact details)
pete,
drawing done and emailed to your architect with some comments on his information. design certificate completed, printed and signed - just await your architect to confirm his address so i can pop this in the post tonight.
your contract documents have been issued
job done from my side - over to your architect mate
ninja
drawing done and emailed to your architect with some comments on his information. design certificate completed, printed and signed - just await your architect to confirm his address so i can pop this in the post tonight.
your contract documents have been issued
job done from my side - over to your architect mate
ninja
Shift working sucks sometimes, but then I have had the morning off playing with my daughter in the park in the sun so not all bad...