65" Monitor

[tut]

I doubt if I would have any problem with the picture quality/resolution of the set Graeme, it is going to be several levels above my present one.

Going through the rest of the points, they do not really apply to me as it is easy to be too picky, but I can settle for what really counts, 65"(ooh ay vicar) to replace the dodgy 60", even though Verian asked what difference 5" would make, to which I replied "I have absolutely no idea my darling", but I believe bigger must be better.

So will go ahead and order.

tut

ps:- 60" LG top of the range HD TV for sale, immaculate condition, very little use, one of the few split screen models.

[graeme]

Resolution is not the issue here. Yes, the new panel has more pixels. 4 times more. That's great. The problem is how quickly it can update all those pixels.

Have you got a Kindle, or have you seen an e-paper device? You know when you turn the page, it's not instantly redrawn? It's sort of sluggish and takes time to update all the pixels? Same problem here, but faster.

30Hz is the panel refresh rate which means the panel can redraw every pixel 30 times per second. The more pixels you have, the more processing power this takes to complete in the same time. For 1080 HD content, this panel has more pixels than it needs, so it can update them 4 at a time. For 4k mode it has to update all pixels individually, so it has to redraw each one every time. That takes longer, so can't be done as many times per second (without more power in the next model). That's simplifying the problem, but you get the idea.

The more times per second the screen can be redrawn, the less flickery the picture appears to be. If you reduce this to it's worst case, imagine watching a picture that changed once per second (stuttery), then compare it to twice per second (sort of paper flick-book speed), 4-8 times (cctv-ish), 16 times (about enough to look ok, but give you a headache).... and so on. At some point you can't tell the difference any more, but where that point lies is quite close to 30Hz. You know how you sometimes hear of people getting headaches under fluorescent lighting tubes? That's because they are actually flickering 50 times per second (240V@50Hz AC). Of course we can't visibly see them flickering, but it's still slow enough to affect some people.

Anyway, first point. Your last TV was probably a much higher refresh rate than 30Hz, because quality TVs have been for a while. This will be a step backwards in that respect.

Second point, this only applies at 4k. When you're watching HD 1080 content, it will be doing 60Hz, which is fine and probably the same as your old TV. I use a 60Hz monitor all day long every day. Your macbook is probably 60Hz. So 99% of the time you'll be getting 60Hz and it'll be great, so go for it anyway.



Finally, a side note, panel refresh rate has nothing to do with the number of frames per second the content has. Blueray movies are often 24fps for example, because it looks like old movie film speed and makes it feel more Hollywood. If you up that to 60fps, it looks like camcorder footage. The two concepts are independent but get muddled because they both talk about how many times per second the picture changes. On a 30Hz panel, even a static image/photograph will be "redrawn" 30 times per second.

[tut]

You know Graeme, you are not just a pretty face, you explain things well and in tut type understanding.

tut

[graeme]

[tut]

Looks as if 4K will be a pie in the sky as in one day we have used 55% of the 25GB/month data allowance. They watched two Netflix films last night from Luke's iPhone to Verians TV, other than that it has just been normal Internet usage.

Pointless buying a 4K Smart TV if we can not watch 4K content from netflix, youtube, or anything else that comes up because of data limitations. Along with that the Hisense monitor has now increased in price by £200, so it looks as if the LG is staying for the foreseeable future.

I have switched the Sat BB Modem off and just using Sky until the kids have left.

tut

[smoo25]

????????????? WTF, was my initial response, but then read the reviews and when the picture was tweeked they were 5*. However I still thought who would use a 65" monitor, then realised I only use my TV as a monitor as it is purely a display for the Sky box.

My 60" five year old looks like it is on the blink, thick black line down the middle of the screen, so am I correct in thinking that I could replace it with this even though it does not have a built in tuner? The reviews are also mentioning 3D which I do not understand as I thought that had to be controlled by the tuner.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00O ... email-2-21

Good idea or not?

tut

You' get life size porn on that.....

not everyone's into midget porn Dom...

[Sanjøy]

Looks as if 4K will be a pie in the sky as in one day we have used 55% of the 25GB/month data allowance. They watched two Netflix films last night from Luke's iPhone to Verians TV, other than that it has just been normal Internet usage.

Two movies streamed and general usage = 13gb?

From Netflix.

• Low (0.3 GB per hour)
• Medium (SD: 0.7 GB per hour)
• High (Best video quality, up to 3 GB per hour for HD and 7 GB per hour for Ultra HD)
• Auto (Adjusts automatically to deliver the highest possible quality, based on your current Internet connection speed)

[Sanjøy]

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/08/14 ... od/?page=1

[pete]

You' get life size porn on that.....

not everyone's into midget porn Dom...

Surely that depends very much on how close you sit to the screen?

And then I suppose there are hygiene issues, if you sit too close.

[rossybee]

Extra-wide cling film would be required if you sat too close.

[cragus]

Hey Tut,

I'm not a tech expert by any means but I did buy this TV for £890 a couple of months ago after seeing my neighbours. I adjusted the settings using ones I picked up on a review from an Amazon review as the screen was far too bright/washed out with the base setting. However as soon as you do that the picture to my eye is exceptional. I can stream videos and music straight from my phone. Has plenty of inputs for gaming, sky boxes, optical inputs, ethernet or wifi connection etc

I'm 20 minutes outside Glasgow but if anyone else is thinking of buying one and wants to see it in the flesh or even a video/photos then let me know.

[tut]

Thanks Craig, however had to knock it on the head for the purpose I was buying it for.

With my SAT data limitation I would not be able to watch Netflix etc in HD never mind 4K.
Same with On Demand on Sky, have to use

tut