Independence SE Poll

[woody]

I'm not wealthy enough to be in a position to move elsewhere if they really do cock it up

Why do you need to be wealthy to move elsewhere?

Move house, get job elsewhere...........and that's it.

Maybe he's in negative equity like a lot of people circa 30 that I speak to (never discussed in the media that I've noted).

[Lazydonkey]

I was originally in the 'No' camp, but i'm in the 'Yes' camp these days. I was in the 'No' camp before looking into things myself. I'm honestly not sure what to believe sometimes but I'm always one for trying something new and well if it goes wrong then we can always do things to fix it.

People seem to think everything will change overnight, that's wrong, it'll be a slow and gradual change.


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Is that not partly due to the yes campaign all but promising free unicorns to everyone post indy?

I'm all up for trying new things and being positive but why do we need to break away to exact change. We have the power to do that just now. It's our vote.

[j2 lot]

Nail on the head Donkey

If we had seen improvements and advances in the areas that are already devolved then Independence would be guaranteed but there has been little or no improvement so far so why should we believe Independence will be a positive move.

[Lazydonkey]

Post devolution primary schools have a worse pupil to staff ratio and we've spent more outsourcing bits of the NHS. Go team!

[tut]

On Radio 5 Live today they were visiting Schools and asking the Heads about the A Level results.

In one School there were 72 languages spoken, and 92% of the pupils did not speak English as their first language. However they spoke one more than most of us do.

Who says that we are not Multicultural?

tut

[a4drk]

David
id imagine that most on here are not on the breadline and dont feel inclined to gamble with what they already percieve as a good quality of life. Those with nothing have nothing to lose by voting yes.

I'm on the breadline now, I've just bought an Exige ....

[thinfourth]

I genuinely dislike the divide that the referendum has created. Scotland will never be the same.

Absolutely agree, this has/will create bad feelings between both factions whatever the outcome.

tut

This is one of the main reasons I am not for it, it's creating yet more division in what is a relatively small already divided (more so in some places) country. Surely we could have put all this energy (and money) into doing good. Like improving poverty in our own towns and cities or help those with illnesses that don't get much support?!

Instead of concentrating on our differences lets concentrate on and improve our similarities!

I have had enough

i'm sick of folk telling me should fcuk off to England unless i am voting YES

Now starting to seriously consider a YES vote followed by fcuk off to england

A large part of scotland does not want me here as i am a tory traitor

if these folk are the true face of scotland then i'm out of here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPL1tbjD_lM

[thinfourth]

I think this sums up the whole debate

Nat = We must leave the UK immediately as Westminster HATES scotland and they will do anything they can to hurt and punish Scotland as wastemonster is stuffed to the gills with tory toff arseholes who HATE us. They all HATE us we must escape the oppression from these thatcher loving barsteward. they will stop at nothing to destroy Scotland

No voter = What about our pound?

Nat = Oh westminster LOVE us and will give us a currency union we want as they will stop at nothing to help scotland


No voter = So we don’t need to leave the union then?


Nat = We must leave the UK immediately as Westminster HATES scotland and they will do anything they can to hurt and punish Scotland as wastemonster is stuffed to the gills with tory toff arseholes who HATE us. They all HATE us we must escape the oppression from these thatcher loving barsteward. they will stop at nothing to destroy Scotland

No voter = What about our EU membership?

Nat = Oh westminster LOVE us and will do everything to get us into the EU as they will stop at nothing to help scotland


No voter = So we don’t need to leave the union then?


Nat = We must leave the UK immediately as Westminster HATES scotland and they will do anything they can to hurt and punish Scotland as wastemonster is stuffed to the gills with tory toff arseholes who HATE us. They all HATE us we must escape the oppression from these thatcher loving barsteward. they will stop at nothing to destroy Scotland.


No voter = What about our ship building?

Nat = Oh westminster LOVE us and will break EU laws and give us the shipbuilding contracts as they will stop at nothing to help scotland


No voter = So we don’t need to leave the union then?


Nat = We must leave the UK immediately as Westminster HATES scotland and they will do anything they can to hurt and punish Scotland as wastemonster is stuffed to the gills with tory toff arseholes who HATE us. They all HATE us we must escape the oppression from these thatcher loving barsteward. they will stop at nothing to destroy Scotland.


No voter = What about our our common border will that be closed?

Nat = Oh westminster LOVE us and will do everything to keep the border open as they will stop at nothing to help scotland


No voter = So we don’t need to leave the union then?


Nat = We must leave the UK immediately as Westminster HATES scotland and they will do anything they can to hurt and punish Scotland as wastemonster is stuffed to the gills with tory toff arseholes who HATE us. They all HATE us we must escape the oppression from these thatcher loving barsteward. they will stop at nothing to destroy Scotland.


No voter = What about our the green subsidy coming into our wind turbines from england?

Nat = Oh westminster LOVE us and will do everything to allow us to keep the green subsidy as they will stop at nothing to help scotland


No voter = So we don’t need to leave the union then?

Nat = We must leave the UK immediately as Westminster HATES scotland and they will do anything they can to hurt and punish Scotland as wastemonster is stuffed to the gills with tory toff arseholes who HATE us. They all HATE us we must escape the oppression from these thatcher loving barsteward. they will stop at nothing to destroy Scotland.

[tut]

Are any of them in the video not fat, ugly, or loud mouthed?

tut

[tut]

What happens to the Bank interest rate if we split?

It has been sitting at 0.5% for years now, good for mortgages and inflation, but I suppose Scotland would be able to set any rate that it wanted to.

tut

[thinfourth]

I have learnt that as a NO voter i must be positive

So i shall give a positive message about interest rates after the spilt

For borrowing it will be 0.1%

For saving it will be 99%


Very positive

And completely impossible

[Dipper]

but with enough intelligent people with the right attitude it could be made to work.

And there's the rub. I have worked in a previous life with several local authorities and seen first hand the people we have in this country as politicians. And stared open-mouthed at some of the barely functioning human beings that are elected to office. Yes, I am saying I believe Westminster politicians to be of a better standard and that's the basic point. All a Yes vote does is substitute one group of elected idiots for a group of (IMO) lesser quality elected idiots - these are the people in whom we place our trust.

Nope.

you need to look no further than the halfwits 'running' aberdeen to see that youre right there! if there were great political minds in scotland we'd be seeing them in westminister... and yes, im trying to forget Gordon Brown was prime minister.

[Jeremy]

What happens to the Bank interest rate if we split?

It has been sitting at 0.5% for years now, good for mortgages and inflation, but I suppose Scotland would be able to set any rate that it wanted to.

tut

The then perpetual Tory government at Westminster would dictate our fiscal and monetary policy, so it would be out of our hands and whatever suited their agenda. That's what a currency union is, the 'desirable and logical' option that Salmond is going to negotiate for us.

Regards,

Jeremy

[pete]

Maybe he's in negative equity like a lot of people circa 30 that I speak to (never discussed in the media that I've noted).

That's well observed, the media has a SE (South East - no Scottish Elises) bias and they are having a housing boom. Thus they know no-one with negative equity....

[pete]

but with enough intelligent people with the right attitude it could be made to work.

And there's the rub. I have worked in a previous life with several local authorities and seen first hand the people we have in this country as politicians. And stared open-mouthed at some of the barely functioning human beings that are elected to office. Yes, I am saying I believe Westminster politicians to be of a better standard and that's the basic point. All a Yes vote does is substitute one group of elected idiots for a group of (IMO) lesser quality elected idiots - these are the people in whom we place our trust.

Nope.

you need to look no further than the halfwits 'running' aberdeen to see that youre right there! if there were great political minds in scotland we'd be seeing them in westminister... and yes, im trying to forget Gordon Brown was prime minister.

Or Tony Blair.


Sorry are you guys saying that one of the reasons for voting No is because you think English people are smarter than Scottish people?

Aw shucks, you're lovely to me!