rhetorical question

jj · Post by jj » Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:02 am

N.A exige being dropped from production for 2008 though. And like I said, the above is progression in a "newer must be better" line rather than what is or isnt faster/slower/better handling etc.

PhilA · Post by **PhilA** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:10 am

before i had the 111R and before it existed, i wanted "an elise".
my fav was the 160 in black.

when the yota engined elise came out, I wanted the 111R.
But i still wanted the 160 too.

when i had my 111R, i wanted to change to an exige, especially having driven a 240R...
But i still looked at a 160.
I also started looking at 135R.

When i crashed the 111R, I looked at a 135R.
I still wanted a s/c exige. I still looking at a 160.

Sitting here, having no lotus, I would love a s/c exige.
Id love a 111R.
Id love a 160.
Id love a 135R.

Theres always something better to be looked at.
Its all experiences that u know ud love.
Enjoy it, every time u think about getting in the car. Every time u pick up the keys. Every time u walk to the car. Every time u open the door. Every time u get in. Every time u touch that steering wheel and that gear lever. Every time u start the engine. Every time u drive it.

Sitting at my desk, thinking of how much i took it for granted that the elise was at home or in the car park, i miss that anticipation and realisation that I OWN AND CAN DRIVE a lotus elise based car.

Upgrade/progression? U have the best already....

EliseR · Post by **EliseR** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:21 am

shooomer wrote:111R -> Exige S would you really notice any difference? (apart from tyres)

Quicker 0-60....and no power drops on the way up to 8,500rpm?

G.

EliseR · Post by **EliseR** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:22 am

PhilA wrote:before i had the 111R and before it existed, i wanted "an elise".
my fav was the 160 in black.

when the yota engined elise came out, I wanted the 111R.
But i still wanted the 160 too.

when i had my 111R, i wanted to change to an exige, especially having driven a 240R...
But i still looked at a 160.
I also started looking at 135R.

When i crashed the 111R, I looked at a 135R.
I still wanted a s/c exige. I still looking at a 160.

Sitting here, having no lotus, I would love a s/c exige.
Id love a 111R.
Id love a 160.
Id love a 135R.

Theres always something better to be looked at.
Its all experiences that u know ud love.
Enjoy it, every time u think about getting in the car. Every time u pick up the keys. Every time u walk to the car. Every time u open the door. Every time u get in. Every time u touch that steering wheel and that gear lever. Every time u start the engine. Every time u drive it.

Sitting at my desk, thinking of how much i took it for granted that the elise was at home or in the car park, i miss that anticipation and realisation that I OWN AND CAN DRIVE a lotus elise based car.

Upgrade/progression? U have the best already....

Dude,

When / why did you get rid and are you going to try and get another?

G.

Gareth · Post by **Gareth** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:24 am

EliseR wrote:
PhilA wrote:before i had the 111R and before it existed, i wanted "an elise".
my fav was the 160 in black.

when the yota engined elise came out, I wanted the 111R.
But i still wanted the 160 too.

when i had my 111R, i wanted to change to an exige, especially having driven a 240R...
But i still looked at a 160.
I also started looking at 135R.

When i crashed the 111R, I looked at a 135R.
I still wanted a s/c exige. I still looking at a 160.

Sitting here, having no lotus, I would love a s/c exige.
Id love a 111R.
Id love a 160.
Id love a 135R.

Theres always something better to be looked at.
Its all experiences that u know ud love.
Enjoy it, every time u think about getting in the car. Every time u pick up the keys. Every time u walk to the car. Every time u open the door. Every time u get in. Every time u touch that steering wheel and that gear lever. Every time u start the engine. Every time u drive it.

Sitting at my desk, thinking of how much i took it for granted that the elise was at home or in the car park, i miss that anticipation and realisation that I OWN AND CAN DRIVE a lotus elise based car.

Upgrade/progression? U have the best already....
Dude,

When / why did you get rid and are you going to try and get another?

G.

Didn't get rid, crashed it.
I sense your retorical question is disguised as you're thinking of chopping

I'm the master of this....well maybe after Shoomer...oh and then there's JJ.

ryallm · Post by **ryallm** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:33 am

PhilA wrote:before i had the 111R and before it existed, i wanted "an elise".
my fav was the 160 in black.

when the yota engined elise came out, I wanted the 111R.
But i still wanted the 160 too.

when i had my 111R, i wanted to change to an exige, especially having driven a 240R...
But i still looked at a 160.
I also started looking at 135R.

When i crashed the 111R, I looked at a 135R.
I still wanted a s/c exige. I still looking at a 160.

Sitting here, having no lotus, I would love a s/c exige.
Id love a 111R.
Id love a 160.
Id love a 135R.

Theres always something better to be looked at.
Its all experiences that u know ud love.
Enjoy it, every time u think about getting in the car. Every time u pick up the keys. Every time u walk to the car. Every time u open the door. Every time u get in. Every time u touch that steering wheel and that gear lever. Every time u start the engine. Every time u drive it.

Sitting at my desk, thinking of how much i took it for granted that the elise was at home or in the car park, i miss that anticipation and realisation that I OWN AND CAN DRIVE a lotus elise based car.

Upgrade/progression? U have the best already....

Know where you are coming from there. It is all too easy to get caught up constantly aspiring to your next car - better to appreciate and enjoy what you have. Worth remembering too that owning a Lotus, especially a brand new one, is an unobtainable dream for the majority of people.

Mark

Andy G · Post by **Andy G** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:43 am

An Exige S is a quicker road car, but on track and in second cam there isn't going to be much difference.

There are loads of answers to your question, but it depends if you want to be all the gear with no idea or not? The reason i ordered an Atom 245 instead of the 300 was to try and ensure i could drive the socks off it before getting the SC.

Some the cars mentioned are seriously tricky to drive to their limits and beyond and require a lot of practise and exeperience. You could still get lapped by an s1 shed spec with the "not much to lose" theory on track.

I think the 111r is a great learning car - more understeer than i'd have liked but you can change that. Switch your Jag for a 911 would be my suggestion

PhilA · Post by **PhilA** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:50 am

EliseR wrote: Dude,
When / why did you get rid and are you going to try and get another?
G.

crashed it

dispite what all my friends are saying, i sure am gonna get one one day!!
got a house and having to spend money on it atm, but hopefully in a couple of years ill get another.
and if that lotto comes up, sooner!!

EliseR · Post by **EliseR** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:10 pm

PhilA wrote:
EliseR wrote: Dude,
When / why did you get rid and are you going to try and get another?
G.
crashed it

dispite what all my friends are saying, i sure am gonna get one one day!!
got a house and having to spend money on it atm, but hopefully in a couple of years ill get another.
and if that lotto comes up, sooner!!

Sorry dude, that sucks. As long as you were okay, main thing.

EliseR · Post by **EliseR** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:16 pm

Andy G wrote: I think the 111r is a great learning car - more understeer than i'd have liked but you can change that. Switch your Jag for a 911 would be my suggestion

I would be mad to change car at this stage, it will be next summer at the earliest. I also have a car in mind which the jag will be swapped for, however, will have to work my arse off if I want it to happen.

G.

GregR · Post by **GregR** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:22 pm

I'll wager you could've buy a 340R with the depreciation if you sell next summer

I'm finding it hard to choke back the phrase 'you bafoon!' but thankfully I managed

Clarkie · Post by **Clarkie** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:25 pm

ryallm wrote:I guess the next logical step up from a 111R in performance and grip (and looks too IMHO) would be an Exige S.

I have often pondered what the next step up from an Exige is, and have concluded that for me at least there isnt really one at the moment. Plenty of cars offer more track performance (Atom, Caterham etc), but if you want a really usable road and track car, I can't really think of anything this side of a 911GT3, especially now that Noble is pretty well defunct. Even if you look at megabucks cars like a Fezza 430 or Lambo, are they going to offer better handling, more lateral grip, or better steering feel? I seriously doubt it - just more straight line grunt and eye watering running costs. So, I am telling myself that the Exige is the ultimate for me at the moment - best way of avoiding expensive temptation

Mark

EliseR · Post by **EliseR** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:30 pm

GregR wrote:I'll wager you could've buy a 340R with the depreciation if you sell next summer

I'm finding it hard to choke back the phrase 'you bafoon!' but thankfully I managed

If it's as bad as all that, ill keep it!! Claire never get's to use it, I would be in the good books if she had it.

G.

kenny · Post by **kenny** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:20 pm

GregR wrote:I'll wager you could've buy a 340R with the depreciation if you sell next summer

I'm finding it hard to choke back the phrase 'you bafoon!' but thankfully I managed