I'm chopping in the Exige for a 911...

[Meenrod]

What was the model name that predated the 964, was it simply 911?

[timmsky]

driven the new 997.

Awesome car - didn't even vaguely want one till i had a brand new one for the weekend.

Starting at £62k

But you'd need the Turbo to make any progress

[timmsky]

driven the new 997.

Awesome car - didn't even vaguely want one till i had a brand new one for the weekend.

Starting at £62k

But you'd need the TURBO to make any progress

Turbo too gay

Meenrod 930?

Turbo... gay... hmmmm <cough>

you still trying to sell yours then Paul?

[Meenrod]

Cheers Shoomer, I'll check them out.

If it is a 930 I think I prefer the look to the 964's. Bit more of a classic shape.

I can see my £15k budget going out the window...

[timmsky]

Cheers Shoomer, I'll check them out.

If it is a 930 I think I prefer the look to the 964's. Bit more of a classic shape.

I can see my £15k budget going out the window...

Golden Rule #1 from Buying a 911 '101':

"Never pay less than £20K"

Rule #2

"Always buy from a dealer with warranty"

Just the facts...

Check out Stirlings for some cracking early 911's - service is second to none.

[Meenrod]

Thanks Timmsky, will do

Might have to break rule 1 though, surely there are some decent 911's for less than £20k privately?

[timmsky]

Thanks Timmsky, will do

Might have to break rule 1 though, surely there are some decent 911's for less than £20k privately?

Sure - but not ones with a warranty..

Garage bills for a 911 are pretty steep, and that's just the parts

There's a nice one at Stirlings actually, well there's a few, but I think the white one is the sort of thing you're looking for?

http://www.stirlings.co.uk Go to Showroom. Mark is a top bloke and exceptionally well respected.

You still won't get a baby seat in the back tho

[Shug]

Yes, just Google search for m.o.n.e.y.p.i.t.

[GregR]

http://www.911virgin.com are good too

[Meenrod]

Yes, just Google search for m.o.n.e.y.p.i.t.

[timmsky]

Yes, just Google search for m.o.n.e.y.p.i.t.

Uhuh... £10K for a failed dreaded rear main oil seal on a 996... engine out job for £2.50 part.. go figure

Rule #3 then:

"Avoid early 996's"

[GregR]

post 964 porkers are pretty bulletproof I've heard. 996s are creeping below £20k, whereas the air cooled 993s are holding their value far better. A nice 993 could last you a long time, apparently you should go for one with the varioram engine

[timmsky]

post 964 porkers are pretty bulletproof I've heard. 996s are creeping below £20k, whereas the air cooled 993s are holding their value far better. A nice 993 could last you a long time, apparently you should go for one with the varioram engine

Early 996's are fragile, and the biggest cause of serious repair bills is the dreaded RMS failure. If the rear main oil seal has not been done, walk away. Some may never go, but if it does and there's no warranty, budget £10K for repairs as it's engine out at a specialist or dealer. [EDIT: That's of course if you don't notice it in time. Plenty of folk quoting £500-1K for in-situ replacement, but v.tricky and a dealer will take the engine out.]

I would not pay any less than £20K minimum for a 996, but best staying closer to the £30-35K mark for a decent one.

Also - avoid tiptronic.

For a definition of Varioram look here:

http://www.instant-g.com/Products/36Con ... /VRAM.html

Cheers,
Iain

[max1966]

911's predating the 964 were all '911's except the 912 and the 930 (and 935 but that's a little specific)

912's were the 'poor' mans early 911, 4 cylinder car that sadly is still not very popular

the 930 were the early turbo's maybe up to '89 though I'm not sure if they just changed to the 911 turbo

the white car at Stirlings is a very nice example, late examples of all of the models are definitely best, with 911's, the 3.2 Carreras are best IMHO withthe g50 gearbox, 915 box is a lot of hard work for everyday, OK if your driving hard but not smooth

early 964's had oil seal problems, though most will have been sorted, again late cars are best

turbo's are very expensive to run, early cars are mostly tired unless they are v.expensive, 4 speed box cars have brutal power delivery, so the 5 speeders are much better and good 964 turbo's are probably out of your price range, rough cars to be avoided

964 Anniversay cars are well worth considering, 4wd aside, the looks of the turbo with the running costs of a normal C4, only two colours though and maybe still a bit expensive

forget RS's, decent cars anywhere north of £30K depending on what you want all the way to £70K, unlikely to find anything cheaper that you would want to risk

C2 964 probably the best compromise all round classic shape, lovely noise, truely usable but hard to find a good one

Running costs would be high as an only car but most parts are serviceable only real problem is finding a good one, I'm always looking but haven't seen anything for a long time

Apparently the smart money is going on Mk1 GT3's but no room for kids seats in there and still more than £40K

good luck

Malcolm

[Scotty C]

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/190916.htm

sweet