Dealing with Millennials - 15 mins wisely spent

Anything goes in here.....
User avatar
kerryxeg
Posts: 1035
Joined: Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:15 pm
Location: Aberdeen

Re: Dealing with Millennials - 15 mins wisely spent

Post by kerryxeg » Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:36 pm

I enjoyed listening to his comments, pretty generalised but fair enough. I went on to watch a few of his other interviews, clearly a convincing speaker who has his opinions. I'll test out some of his theories with the various teams I deal with and see how that works. No phones on the desk should be an interesting one.

I passed the link for the original video on to our 17 year old, who responded with "Why are people always having a go at us". Clearly not ready to receive information she has not chosen to listen to.

User avatar
BiggestNizzy
Posts: 8932
Joined: Sun May 27, 2007 6:47 pm
Location: Kilmarnock
Contact:

Re: Dealing with Millennials - 15 mins wisely spent

Post by BiggestNizzy » Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:27 pm

kerryxeg wrote: "Why are people always having a go at us".
Interestingly they probably have a point, everyone always has a go at them, from belittling academic achievement, getting told they are always lazy, entitled etc. being forced to pay for university etc. The previous generation love to have a go at the current one. Even though it's them that will be paying for the nursing homes that will drain all of their hard earned cash :D
Sent from my ZX SPECTRUM +2A

User avatar
Shug
Posts: 13835
Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:28 pm
Location: Deepest, Darkest Ayrshire

Re: Dealing with Millennials - 15 mins wisely spent

Post by Shug » Tue Feb 14, 2017 5:59 pm

It's a fair point. Society constantly strives to make life easier for themselves, with the effect that the following generation always have it easier. Then resentment because they didn't have the same struggle.

Humans :thumbsup
2010 Honda VFR1200F
1990 Honda VFR400 NC30
2000 Honda VTR1000 SP1
2000 Kawasaki ZX-7R

User avatar
kerryxeg
Posts: 1035
Joined: Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:15 pm
Location: Aberdeen

Re: Dealing with Millennials - 15 mins wisely spent

Post by kerryxeg » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:05 pm

The assumption is that any comment is a criticism. So generally I just wait for disaster to strike and come wait for a cry of help. Part of life great learning experience.

I'm teaching her how drive at the moment,it's pretty funny when she has to listen because no amount of internet will replace the need for physical driving practice. The most common phrase used to be "why is it doing that". I'm pleased to report the world is getting safer, stalls are now less frequent, I think she'll turn out to be a good driver and the car must be fixing itself. :D

ScottJ-PS
Posts: 389
Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2016 6:03 pm
Location: Bearsden

Re: Dealing with Millennials - 15 mins wisely spent

Post by ScottJ-PS » Tue Feb 14, 2017 8:33 pm

BiggestNizzy wrote:
kerryxeg wrote: "Why are people always having a go at us".
Interestingly they probably have a point, everyone always has a go at them, from belittling academic achievement, getting told they are always lazy, entitled etc. being forced to pay for university etc. The previous generation love to have a go at the current one. Even though it's them that will be paying for the nursing homes that will drain all of their hard earned cash :D
If you left school or University during the dark days of Thatchers deindustrialization you were given nothing. YOPs, YTS, £25, mass unemployed graduates. So I struggle with sympathy for todays youngsters who have to pay college fees and expect a £50K job after 6 months work experience . I left Glasgow to work in a London car park 30 years ago. OK I quickly found a "proper" job but why do people expect everything on a plate nowadays. as Tebbit said "get on yer bike".

User avatar
Lazydonkey
Posts: 5139
Joined: Sun Aug 07, 2005 6:24 pm
Location: Glasgow
Contact:

Re: Dealing with Millennials - 15 mins wisely spent

Post by Lazydonkey » Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:02 pm

Although I do agree with a lot of the generalisations about millennials I don't think they have it easy at all. In many ways the good, the really good ones have worked harder and are more polished at 22 than I ever was. It's a super competitive market.

As grads they are exceptional.... The issue we've found (we take on 6-8 a year) is what happens after 2/3 years.... That's when the expectation and the entitlement kicks in in my experience.

Guy that used to work for me is one rung below head of dept.... Youngest ever at 27....runs a team of 16 and does an amazing job.... 330d x drive and a lovely big house.....chunky salary.... And all he is fixated on is when the move to head of dept is coming.

That's when it gets hard as there is only so high you can go before you just need life experience. There are so short cuts, sure.... But on the whole it's just about taking the time to soak it all up.

Which makes me sound like a right old duffer!
Focus ST estate, i3s and more pushbikes than strictly necessary.

....did i ever tell you about the Evora and VX220 i used to own?

ScottJ-PS
Posts: 389
Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2016 6:03 pm
Location: Bearsden

Re: Dealing with Millennials - 15 mins wisely spent

Post by ScottJ-PS » Wed Feb 15, 2017 12:00 am

27, a 3 series (the new Cortina GLX) , far too young to appreciate proper cars, LOL

User avatar
campbell
Posts: 17339
Joined: Sat Mar 25, 2006 12:42 pm
Location: West Lothian
Contact:

Re: Dealing with Millennials - 15 mins wisely spent

Post by campbell » Wed Feb 15, 2017 12:13 am

Lol at Kerry. I can only imagine !
http://www.rathmhor.com | Coaching, training, consultancy

User avatar
kerryxeg
Posts: 1035
Joined: Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:15 pm
Location: Aberdeen

Re: Dealing with Millennials - 15 mins wisely spent

Post by kerryxeg » Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:51 pm

Involvement in the young enterprise scheme was an eye opener for our 17 year old. Working in teams, listening to other peoples ideas, making decisions, getting people to share responsibility, dealing with suppliers, customers etc. All brilliant experience and I think she got a lot out of it. So it's not all bad, there just has to be the right motivation.

User avatar
campbell
Posts: 17339
Joined: Sat Mar 25, 2006 12:42 pm
Location: West Lothian
Contact:

Re: Dealing with Millennials - 15 mins wisely spent

Post by campbell » Wed Feb 15, 2017 2:35 pm

Young Ent is brilliant. Former Business Adviser, and trying desperately to make time for it again.
http://www.rathmhor.com | Coaching, training, consultancy

User avatar
rossybee
Posts: 11093
Joined: Tue Mar 15, 2005 9:13 pm
Location: Dundee

Re: Dealing with Millennials - 15 mins wisely spent

Post by rossybee » Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:45 pm

kerryxeg wrote:I'm teaching her how drive at the moment,it's pretty funny when she has to listen because no amount of internet will replace the need for physical driving practice. The most common phrase used to be "why is it doing that". I'm pleased to report the world is getting safer, stalls are now less frequent, I think she'll turn out to be a good driver and the car must be fixing itself. :D
Similar to my experiences last year - nearly 5mths since passing her test, there's even less chance of telling her she's doing something wrong!!!

18yr olds can't be told :mrgreen:
Ross
---------
1972 Alfaholics Giulia Super
2000 Elise S1 Sport 160
2004 Bentley Conti GT
2017 Schkoda Yeti
2x Hairy GRs (not Toyota)

Now browsing the tech pages :mrgreen:

:cheers

pete
Vexatious Litigant
Posts: 4707
Joined: Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:23 pm
Location: Kilmarnock

Re: Dealing with Millennials - 15 mins wisely spent

Post by pete » Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:09 am

c8rkh wrote:17 year old girl won £1m on the Lottery. Now 21, she is planning/threatening to sue the National Lottery for allowing her to win as she says she was too young and it has ruined her life! WTF is that all about? Anybody else would have thought woo hoo, not enough to retire on but I can help my mum and dad out, maybe buy a wee pad, invest some for the future and build a nest egg. National Lottery tried to support her and offered financial planning and advice many times but she refused it.

Oh no, instead she goes out and get's a boob job to help her esteem and parties a lot judging by the facebook pictures, etc.

Some of this younger generation really have had it too bloody easy and have no sense of responsibility and accountability. I mean, she's the roughly the same age as my son (19) and daughter (22) and I really would go nuts if they thought it was Ok to "blame" someone else for that good luck....
Is that really new?

Wasn't there a pools winner from teh 70s who did pretty much the same?

Heard a documentary a couple of years ago about American lottery winners - by and large unhappy.
'99 - '03 Titanium S1 111S.
'03 - '10 Starlight Black S2 111S
'11 - '17 S2 135R
'17 - '19 S2 Exige S+
'23 - ?? Evora

pete
Vexatious Litigant
Posts: 4707
Joined: Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:23 pm
Location: Kilmarnock

Re: Dealing with Millennials - 15 mins wisely spent

Post by pete » Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:16 am

BiggestNizzy wrote:
kerryxeg wrote: "Why are people always having a go at us".
Interestingly they probably have a point, everyone always has a go at them, from belittling academic achievement, getting told they are always lazy, entitled etc. being forced to pay for university etc. The previous generation love to have a go at the current one. Even though it's them that will be paying for the nursing homes that will drain all of their hard earned cash :D
Good point.

I caught a rant from my mate's millienial kids following a news story which said they only got As as the exams were easier. Both straight A students and hard working in a way that none of my friends were at their age.

But that's anecdotal that is not evidence.
'99 - '03 Titanium S1 111S.
'03 - '10 Starlight Black S2 111S
'11 - '17 S2 135R
'17 - '19 S2 Exige S+
'23 - ?? Evora

User avatar
BiggestNizzy
Posts: 8932
Joined: Sun May 27, 2007 6:47 pm
Location: Kilmarnock
Contact:

Re: Dealing with Millennials - 15 mins wisely spent

Post by BiggestNizzy » Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:56 am

Sent from my ZX SPECTRUM +2A

Post Reply