shhh was going to offer him a monkey for his lump!Titanium S1 111S (gla) wrote:Sounds like you need an S1 which has blown its HG and written off the top end. Pay a few quid for that, another few quid to buy back the 111R for the oily bits, quick knock with a hammer, twist with a spanner and you have a Yota powered S1
My car is dead, long live my car
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Would that it be so easy.....Titanium S1 111S (gla) wrote:Sounds like you need an S1 which has blown its HG and written off the top end. Pay a few quid for that, another few quid to buy back the 111R for the oily bits, quick knock with a hammer, twist with a spanner and you have a Yota powered S1
Sadly, it's never been done. The subframes are different, the wiring looms are different and there's a host of stuff that would need thousands to work out... Cheaper to whack a Honda in said car (no, really!)
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1990 Honda VFR400 NC30
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2000 Kawasaki ZX-7R
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The_Rossatron
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ouch! I'd be surprised if it makes it back onto the road . Hope you get a new one soon!
. Hope you get a new one soon!"There is no emoticon for what I'm feeling right now."
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Ferrari F355, Fiat Panda 100HP, Rover Mini Cooper
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Low speed impacts can indeed be killers - saw fracture dislocation of T11, ruptured aorta from an 11 mph crash 
car still driveable.
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Shug wrote:Novice Racer wrote:Novice,robin wrote:It's hard to tell from the pictures, but actually it doesn't look like chassis damage to me - usually you get at least one wheel pointing in a funny direction, or just hanging off or missing.
However, if you have damaged the windscreen surround then you are probably still looking at a write off, as it comes as part of the chassis IIRC.
Whatever ... the insurance company will soon tell you and given the state of the car I would be happy not to have it repaired - let them sell it for salvage.
Meanwhile I dug this photo out for another topic the other day - shows just how tough the wee beasties are
Robin
May look tough but it is deceleration injury that kills, not how together the car remains.
I have been on many a Medic 1 (specialist ambulance from Edinburgh Royal with 2 tauma doctors on board) trip some field where some poor chap's car has landed. Often these folks end up on the post mortem table.
Car and cabin can look fine, especially the bigger more expensive sorts, but excessive flexion/rotational injuries to spinal cord axons passing through cervical spine causes shearing and bleeding and can result in hemi or quadraplegia.
Also, deceleration of the brain in the cranium can also cause coup-contra-coup injury where haemorrhage happens both on the front of the brain (direction of travel) and the back (backward movement of brain against cranium after stopping). Otherwise, simply shear stress can cause diffuse axonal injury and brain stem death. And thats before we even get into bleeds and things you can see on CT scans.
These injuries are often not survivable and depend on speed rather than preservation of the car structure. Bye the way, I assume there was no passenger in that picture, or their head would be embedded on the edge of the windscreen surround.
NR
Your experience of RTAs and associated injuries obviously puts you in good stead to discuss stuff like this. Wanna clear up some info about the Liz though...
Whilst the tub is enormously stiff and acts like a safety cell - the whole car isn't just a stiff cage. It's actually got some pretty sophisticated deformable crash structures to dampen impacts at a variety of speeds.
Firstly, you've got the clams, which do crumple in a controlled manner.
Then, under the skin, you've got side intrusion beams in the doors (despite the chassis structure having the rigidity required to pass testing).
Most importantly, you've got a composite crash structure (as in motorsport practise) under the front clam which gives very controlled decelleration in a frontal impact. The rear steel subframe is also designed in the same way - to deform in a controlled manner.
I'd much rather shunt my Elise than my 1.5 tons of Merc with a huuge bonnet. Some crashes you just don't walk away from, but I believe the Elise is one of the safest open top cars you can crash.
Many thanks Shug.
I had been a little worried about how safe the car is, particularly having lived with 6 airbags, ABS, traction control etc in previous cars.
Re-assuring to know that Lotus have seemingly thought of crashing as well as performance. I assumed all the normal safety features (with the exception of those required to pass NCAP) were excluded as a weight saving device.
On another note......I have no tyre repair thingy under the front arch. Should I (2002 S2 Elise) and of not, where can I get some (already had 1 rear puncture this year).
Novice.
