To modify or not to modify?

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Re: To modify or not to modify?

Post by KennyT » Fri Jul 04, 2014 11:36 pm

I've had the car on track twice now and it does feel good although it is standard thickness, I wish I had asked them to go a little thicker than standard. The re-trim was £220, doubt they'll be able to find an exact match for the dash but a new replacement should be available from Lotus, or you could go black to match door cards or seats?
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Re: To modify or not to modify?

Post by rossybee » Sat Jul 05, 2014 9:44 am

KennyT wrote:For me, this clown is doing it all wrong!
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topi ... urbo&mid=0
Holy crap.
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Re: To modify or not to modify?

Post by Dominic » Tue Jul 08, 2014 2:15 pm

rossybee wrote:
KennyT wrote:For me, this clown is doing it all wrong!
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topi ... urbo&mid=0
Holy crap.
:shock: Pages 5 -6 :shock: that poor little elise!
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Re: To modify or not to modify?

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Re: To modify or not to modify?

Post by Corranga » Tue Jul 08, 2014 8:39 pm

Dominic wrote:
rossybee wrote:
KennyT wrote:For me, this clown is doing it all wrong!
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topi ... urbo&mid=0
Holy crap.
:shock: Pages 5 -6 :shock: that poor little elise!
:shock: :shock: :shock:

I know next to nothing about aero, but surely that won't help at all, and with a K in the back will it even go quick enough to generate downforce ?

Also, it looks absolutely horrendous!
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Re: To modify or not to modify?

Post by Dominic » Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:18 am

There is a turbo on it, but I did not read the thread, so can't comment on the power, but agree, all that aero is way over the top, will give loads of drag, and looks horrific. Not really much point IMHO as on track, the splitter is too high to be effective - a smaller lower splitter would be much more useful, and on road, the front and rear aero will ground out everywhere. Would have been far quicker and easier to get some vinyl graphics for the sides of the car saying "I'm a fud and I ruined my car". :lol:
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Re: To modify or not to modify?

Post by Shug » Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:24 am

A guy who's signed in to be a member of this forum, incidentally, so let's not start using derogatory names...

Whilst I agree that he's not gone about it in a very logical manner, what I will say is that he's going out and jumping into a motorsport arena with virtually no budget and a lot of graft from his own hands. Sure, I don't believe for a second that the car will do very well, but he looks like he's willing to give it a shot and learn in competition. So I'm not willing to ridicule him on that.
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Re: To modify or not to modify?

Post by Shug » Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:26 am

Different thing from some chav nailing on a bodykit to cruise round the streets looking 'hardcore', IMO...
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Re: To modify or not to modify?

Post by robin » Wed Jul 09, 2014 2:06 pm

I loved his build thread on pistonheads - read it front to back over the course of a couple of mornings - sure some of it is a bit left field, but top marks for effort and commitment.

On the subject of ride height, in the thread it's clear that he has to raise ride height to use on the road, so whilst on the pictures it might look too high, on track it's 40mm above the tarmac which is as low as the TA regs allow (according to the thread - I know nothing about TA), so will be as good/bad as any of his competitors.

I have no idea about aerodynamics or the actual drag, but again the thread mentions a desire to use large splitters and diffusers because they give you downforce without adding the drag penalty of wings.

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Re: To modify or not to modify?

Post by tut » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:05 pm

I thought the same.

Top marks for going any path that is a rebuild, especially as he can not compete unless he can do it on a limited budget. Without the enthusiasm they would all be out of the box cars.

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Re: To modify or not to modify?

Post by Scotty C » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:45 pm

some of his work is great but some of the Aero is way over the top.

I put a bigger front splitter on my 211 when i was racing and it took 10 mph off the top speed on the back straight on the old snetterton.
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Re: To modify or not to modify?

Post by robin » Wed Jul 09, 2014 5:27 pm

I guess the point is how much more drag would a wing have given (assuming you could mount a wing over the front wheels)? Also, all the aero is bolt on, so if it doesn't add any worthwhile downforce he can bin it and save a good load of weight (and drag).
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Re: To modify or not to modify?

Post by Ferg » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:44 am

It's always great to see someone going their own way. The further through the project it goes the more plausible it all seems. The wide reaction at the start was not different to what was said here. I do recommend you read through the journey whether you agree with it or not. :-)

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