Opinions on these rules please

[gordon]

Carrying on with my now regular post race battles with the SMRC. Can some of you please read through the following and give your take on the rules.
http://www.smrc-uk.com/competitors/regs ... r_regs.pdf
It says in 1.3.1... Where ther are 3 or less competitors REGISTERED for any championship class. Points will be awarded according to championship class finishing order as follows 1st-12, 2nd-10, 3rd-8.


In the last race there was only 3 Class E cars entered. BUT..... there are 8 cars registered in the championship.
http://www.smrc-uk.com/season/results.p ... onship=sse

Am i reading this wrong??? The way i read it is that as long as there are 4 or more cars registered in class i should get my 25 points for a win. But..... the way the SMRC seem to read it is that there has to be 4 or more cars entered in the race in class before they give full points.

What a farce of a championship. This means that no matter how many wins i get... my chances on winning the overall championship is down to how many class E cars enter a race... not if i win all the time. one meeting i'll get 25 points for a win... the next a couple of guys might not be able to afford to enter... so i only get 12 points for my win. Makes me wonder why i bother.

[Rich H]

It says registered not running in each race, so the presence or otherwise of other drivers makes no odds at all to the points awarded. In fact if only you turned up then you would walk away with 25 points.

I imagine it was to stop very small chapionships getting really high points despite that fact there is no competition.

Can you apeal to anyone?

[Uldis]

Why don't you try asking the SMRC class representative?

Isn't it John Nathan for Sports & Saloons?
phone 01852 300 329 (from their website)

[gordon]

I thought i'd check i'm not picking it up wrong 1st. I've been in e mail discussion with the SMRC for weeks now. I got a class win trophy at the 1st race, but at the last one i got told you dont get one. Also i've never had my licence signed with the correct result yet!!!

Your supposed to get a point for lap record... but they forgot about that too and the class E lap record is still listed as 58.416.

My view is.... i spend a fortune going racing and many hours working on the car. i should be able to turn up, race and thats all i have to worry about for my £150 entry.
But from what i've heard around the paddock, you have to check, check and recheck your results and make sure you get every point your due as they never seem to get it right. All i get told is "it's just the way it is, it's only club racing, it's always been like that". What a load of complete and utter sh!te

[Rich H]

Sounds like they need to read their own rules....

[renmure]

It says registered not running in each race, so the presence or otherwise of other drivers makes no odds at all to the points awarded.

Thats how I read it too.

Jim

[Brian J]

Gordon,

Don't recall all this hassle when I was racing - but then I wasn't a championship contender Sounds pretty lax by SMRC.

Press your case firmly, clearly and calmly quoting the rules as above - have you used Iain Cowie to help (Caterham rep and knows everyone)? Or tried Chris Edwards - recall as being a reasonable guy?

[gordon]

It says here Mr Pick is the man to speak to regards these issues http://www.smrc-uk.com/contacts.php

I have spoken to Ian Cowie, it was Ian who responded with the above quotes. I always get told by him "it's not BTCC your in, it's only club racing". It might as well be F1 i'm in because with my budget this level is the highest i can affort to race at.

I've appealed to Mr Edwards at every event so far, but always get passed about to someone else, who then passes it on again.

I'm still waiting on a reply about lap record points. I've sent an e mail to Kevin Pick, worded very potitely, with no emotion

[gordon]

Copy of the email here...

Dear mR SMRc your club is sh!te. where's aw ma points. how comez i only got 12. i want 25.

Love and kisses.

Gordon

That should do it.

[GilesM]

Gordon

Reading through the rules, I would understand it the same as yourself, however all of the people within the SMRC may have always understood it to mean actually entered per race, not registered for the championship, or they may have written the rules and had intended it to mean per race, it wouldn't be the first time a rule/law has been incorrectly written and/or misunderstood. It is not impossible for a rule to be written with the person writing it thinking something different to what they actually write, English is not a black and white language, and some people do not have a great understanding of different possible meanings. These things only ever come to light when somebody questions it, as you are right now, however, it doesn't alter the fact that you seem to be right, but it may just explain the problems you are currently having. Or the SMRC may just be filled with a bunch of incompetent old farts.

I'm sure if you keep plugging away and keep it polite you'll get it all sorted, however if you win the championship and keep breaking lap records I expect you'll enjoy yourself.

Giles

[robin]

Gordon,

It's actually section 1.6.1 that discusses scoring (3.1 is to the right of that, which is probably why you thought it was 3.1).

It is clear that the word registration/register is used in the context of the whole championship, not individual races.

Section 1.4.4 says that "Registration numbers will be the permanent Competition numbers for the Championship". I can see no relevance in that statement except for scoring, so I think you are right.

Whether or not the class lap record and class pole points would or would not be awarded to a class with 3 or FEWER competitors is also unclear - I suspect the intention is that they would not.

Good luck and remember not to lose the heid

Robin

[M Blur]

stick with it Gogs - I think you're in right - keep a note and hopefully they can be awarded after the fact.

Don't lose heart - you're doing great - keep pushing

Jon