What's it like?

fd · Post by fd » Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:05 pm

campbell wrote:Tried this with the Golf though, and the ESP just cuts the engine when it detects brake being pressed so doesn't work on that

My Audi is the same - it means you cannot heel and toe either, pain in the arse as I think diesels need heel and toe just as much as petrols . . . if not more . . .

Fd

Post by **campbell** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:18 pm

Right enough...never thought of that!

However the Golf's brakes aren't up to H&T action...am currently finishing the bedding in of recent disks and it only takes a few hard stops to fry 'em!

If this was my own car, I'd be putting "fast-road/trackday" pads in. But since it's the family wagon, I am going to resist that temptation

jason · Post by **jason** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:20 pm

fd wrote:
campbell wrote:Tried this with the Golf though, and the ESP just cuts the engine when it detects brake being pressed so doesn't work on that
My Audi is the same - it means you cannot heel and toe either, pain in the arse as I think diesels need heel and toe just as much as petrols . . . if not more . . .

Fd

Interesting stuff. I've had a few BMW TD courtesy cars and IIRC heel'n'toe was no problem (the light switch power delivery was tho) Guess the VAG/FWD TC/ESP/whatever it's called is more intrusive...

Andy G · Post by **Andy G** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:32 pm

The Seat Ibiza Cupras at Kh are up for some h&t action

Did my ARDS in one

Post by **campbell** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:02 pm

Curiouser and curiouser...would've expected the VAG ESP to all work broadly the same, although I suppose our Golf Tdi Gti isn't really in the same sporty league as Leon FRs so maybe treated differently.

rossybee · Post by **rossybee** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:08 pm

Nice one LH - you & Mrs Hoy looked decidedly fresh when you arrived at the site

fd · Post by fd » Tue Jul 10, 2007 4:17 pm

campbell wrote:Curiouser and curiouser...would've expected the VAG ESP to all work broadly the same, although I suppose our Golf Tdi Gti isn't really in the same sporty league as Leon FRs so maybe treated differently.

It's a diseasel innit . . . you think the brakes are going to win against the engine ? . . . doubt it . . .

It's just 'safety' gone mad in a fly by wire system . . . if you're foot is on the brakes surely you should not also be expecting power . . . they must have had some space in the eeprom in the ECU that needed filling with useless code . . .

Fd

graeme · Post by **graeme** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:30 pm

campbell wrote:
fd wrote: . . . and my advanced driving training makes me seem to go much slower than I actually do
No, young Jedi, that is The Force revealing its true strength to those who use it wisely.

You speak the truth.

steve_weegie · Post by **steve_weegie** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:40 pm

fd wrote:
campbell wrote:Curiouser and curiouser...would've expected the VAG ESP to all work broadly the same, although I suppose our Golf Tdi Gti isn't really in the same sporty league as Leon FRs so maybe treated differently.
It's a diseasel innit . . . you think the brakes are going to win against the engine ? . . . doubt it . . .

It's just 'safety' gone mad in a fly by wire system . . . if you're foot is on the brakes surely you should not also be expecting power . . . they must have had some space in the eeprom in the ECU that needed filling with useless code . . .

Fd

star performance know the vag ecu damn well and might be able to tweak it for you... Dont know as i traded in my s3 for an elise